don’t know. And actually, part of why I went pro and started my healing practice is to become an industry partner for the researchers and help answer those questions, right? I would love to work with researchers. Get maybe it’s nerve cells in a petri dish. I do my thing, and we see what happens at a biochemical level, what actually changes. So we don’t have that yet, but what I can tell you is that when I’m working with somebody’s energy, I think of so if we think of the energy signature as this big, complex radio wave, and then when I compare, let’s say somebody has frozen shoulder my shoulder, I compare the energy in that shoulder to The energy in the other shoulder I see in the muscle sheath, I see certain energy signatures that are elevated, and I see these same parts of the energy signature elevated in all of my clients with inflammation. So So I say, Okay, this is the part of the energy signature that corresponds to inflammation. And when cells are inflamed, the energy that they produce, right? This is natural energy produced by cells. The energy they produce has that part of the energy signature elevated, and so then I will suppress that part of the energy signature. And the theory is that that then suppresses. Increases those cellular functions. It decreases the cellular function of inflammation, of releasing those inflammatory cytokines,

 

Manon Bolliger  10:08

okay, but the this, the Suppression Act, is to the best of your ability. I mean, I know this is a challenging question, but what? What is it that happens?

 

Mike Sententia  10:24

So the best way to think about it is, if you’re familiar with noise canceling headphones, you have a sound wave, and you play the exact opposite sound wave, and it cancels out. So I’m going to take the energy that’s in their body, the and the part of it that is the elevated inflammatory energy, and I’m going to apply an inverse energy that cancels it out.

 

Manon Bolliger  10:49

Okay, yeah, so it’s, it’s very different than in homeopathy, for example, that like, there’s, like, it’s, it in naturopathy, they use that principle because it’s very similar to Catholic models. And I’m not saying, you know, I’m not talking about an industry issue here say, you know, healing happens differently, right? And there’s many different doors available. So I was curious how, so it’s like canceling by its opposite,

 

Mike Sententia  11:20

that’s right. So I will read the nerves where there is pain elsewhere in the body, where there’s not pain, and in general, I know what part of the energy signature is going to correspond to chronic and acute pain, but it’s slightly different for everyone. So I compare them, and I see what is elevated. How exactly is it elevated, and then I apply the inverse energy to bring that part of the signature back down.

 

Manon Bolliger  11:47

Okay, great. Now, other question, completely, yeah, many times in healing, you know, people say there’s a mental, emotional, physical, spiritual, you know, societal component. It’s it’s not just one thing. And I would say, I’ve certainly seen that in in my practice, to say that everything comes from emotion first. I mean, it could be argued, but it doesn’t always present that way. Sometimes, unless you can read the subconscious and know everything, which I don’t, you know, sometimes it looks like the physical is the start of a problem, and then comes the whole confounding, you know, when you’re in chronic pain, then yeah, you go, you get depressed, you get this, you get, you know, so it, it can go both ways, right? So, I mean, at least in my in my observation, how do you deal with that? And is there a place that, when you’re doing this work, where you can see that, aha, this is, this is coming from a story, or an emotional story, or a belief system, or something like that. Or do you need to even bother with that?

 

Mike Sententia  13:08

You know, it’s really interesting. When I tell people that I do energy healing, a lot of folks expect that what I’m doing is, you know, basically a life coaching or helping somebody like think through their pain, and then I’m going to be talking to them and doing therapy by another name. And actually, what I’m doing is really strictly working with the nerves and inflamed tissue in the body. I work. Most of my clients start as skeptics. Most of the population is skeptical. I think skepticism is the correct stance to take on energy healing. That’s part of why I have this money back guarantee.

 

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Mike Sententia  14:56

And so I. It doesn’t matter if they believe in it or not, people get the same results. They don’t have to be focused on what I’m doing. I have some people meditate while I’m doing it. Some people doze off while I’m doing it, but some people answer emails or read a book and yeah. And in fact, when I’m doing distance sessions, I tell people, great, I’m going to read the energy now do any interruptible task for the next five or 10 minutes, and I’ll let you know when I’m ready for you, right? And folks really like that. It lets them get more done in their day. And so it’s not about what the person believes. It’s not about what the person thinks. I am using this natural external phenomenon of chi to act on the nerves and tissue of the body, and they can believe in it or not, they’re still gonna get results. Well,

 

Manon Bolliger  15:52

I mean, not that I have the experience with what you’re doing, but I concur with I love skeptics, and I think I’m one too. And honestly, even in the work that I’ve done, as it turns out, you know, both hold me up with the Embo and therapy, they’re like, Wow, really, that works. You know, you just take this little pill, or I barely touch you and leave the room, and you get better. Like, it’s like, so I, I like it when people ask questions. I don’t have all the answers, but I agree that it works regardless of if you believe it or not, if you’re if you’re on the if it’s a correct treatment, yeah. So like in homeopathy, you have to choose around between like 5000 remedies. So getting the right one challenging, and so it is. It is very possible to be wrong. That’s one one in Bowen. It’s far more forgiving, because the the the belief, or the understanding of how this works is that the body self corrects you give the body information so that sort of find its own healthy blueprint. Again, my question to you is, how does, how do you see your work in light of like those two kind of different approaches.

 

Mike Sententia  17:25

So I would say there is a lot of skill in dialing in just the right energy signature, and this is one of the differences in my approach versus the approaches that use a universal energy for everything. If I want to make it work for most people, which is really important, because I offer this guarantee and I only get paid if it works for you. So if I want it to work for most people, I’ve had to get really good at figuring out what exactly is the right energy signature for them. I can’t just blindly apply an energy that usually helps with inflammation, I need to figure out what’s going on in this specific case for this particular person, because everybody’s energy is a little different. The other thing that I sometimes run into is there are a bunch of conditions that I don’t have anything for, right? I don’t work with migraines. Every so often I have a client who has arthritis and a migraine, and I say, Hey, let me take a look. I’ve improved a lot since the last time I worked with my try to migraine. Let me see if I could do anything for you. And fairly consistently, I don’t have anything for that, because it happens entirely in the brain. And brains are complicated, and I don’t know what to do there. I’ve recently, in the last couple of years, started getting some great results for people with neuropathy, which also happens entirely in the nerves, in the peripheral nervous system. And but for a long time, I didn’t have anything for that. And then as I’ve gotten better, I’ve been able to work out what to do there long term, as hopefully this gets picked up by more people and we get research going, I think there is a great potential to more deeply understand what’s the physiology and the energy of migraines, and how can we work with them? I think that this is something that we will ultimately be able to get traction on, but it probably requires maybe even more than one person working on it. This, this might be a community effort to crack that so long term, I think we’re gonna have a lot of healing techniques, and it will take some expertise to select the right one and then tweak it for the individual.

 

Manon Bolliger  19:48

Well, I’m feeling compelled to say this. I’m going to say it, but I have looked at migraines as extremely structural issue for. Hmm. And I’ve had fantastic results with migraines, doing one of two things. I mean, you always treat the whole person, you know, whatever’s not working. You’ve gotta look at but it’s either the TMJ or the coccyx.

 

Mike Sententia  20:19

Oh, interesting. Yeah, yeah,

 

Manon Bolliger  20:21

I thought you might put that together, because those are kind of the opposite ends, you know. I mean, I there’s a lot of ways to look into that, but I’m wondering if maybe that approach might give you an in. Because I used to think, Oh, it’s just an internal, you know, brain thing a little bit, because that’s what so called Science says. But I have found that maybe that’s true too. But in any case, all the people I get to see and was able to help, you know, very few of them I was not able to there’s got to be some structural component in a lot of people, that’s all I could say.

 

Mike Sententia  21:04

Interesting. Thank you. That is a great thread to pull on as I’m figuring it out.

 

Manon Bolliger  21:09

Yeah, that’s what I was thinking. It might just fit into another way in, you know, interesting, yeah, but I agree with you. It’s working all together and having the a platform where we can have these kind of talks without being shut down, censored, ridiculed, wearing 10 hats and whatever, I think it takes that kind of and open and, you know, many more people are starting to Be open minded, because the results are just not working. You know, with conventional medicine, like the side effects are causing so many problems long term, you know. So, you know, if you have to take something quickly, and you don’t need a lot of anything, you know, some people that they’ll do that, and they’re fine, but if you’re in chronic pain and you’re taking meds for chronic pain, you are suffering from the, you know, the side effects of that long term, and that’s why it’s going to bring you down. So, you know, may as well look at their options. And I think there, you know, there are many, so it’s exciting to find out. So, so how do you deal? Okay, I don’t know. We have only, like, about five minutes left. Where would you like to what would you like to share that I’m not asking you.

 

Mike Sententia  22:31

Let me share real quick about why I do the money back guarantee. Because I think that this is really key, because there are so many people out there with just severe, crippling pain, who don’t believe in energy healing, think it’s kind of silly. Think it’s all placebo. But, you know, they’re willing to try stuff and see if it works. And before I added the guarantee, I knew my stuff worked, but they didn’t. And so it was this whole like, how do I convince them? How do I show them? Once I added the guarantee, then people can just try it see for themselves. It lets you meet them where they are, and the way I do it is really simple. So you get your session, no upfront payment. You’re going to fill the results right away. We send you an invoice after if you like the way you feel, pay the invoice. If you don’t like the way you feel, don’t pay the invoice. And when people hear that, they’re like, I don’t see how that could be a scam. Let’s give it a try, and it just cuts through all of that stigma. Then the other thing I do is it’s guaranteed for four weeks. I put a lot into making the energy as the person’s energy adjusts right there, their pain comes goes up, their pain goes down. I put a lot into making my energy, healing energy, adjust with them to keep it working. So it’s guaranteed for four weeks. I check in with folks each week. If their pain comes back, they get a free session, or they get a full refund, but they get the free session, we have the energy working again. And I just, I love knowing that the business is entirely built with people who love what I do, and at least after experiencing it, come to really believe in what I do. And that feels great.

 

Manon Bolliger  24:16

And I would imagine, too for the referrals, you know, said it’s a no brainer. Why not try and you cut through all this? Yeah? Resistance, yes, and indoctrination, yeah, that’s brilliant. That’s that’s a great and it makes it easy. It makes it accessible.

 

Mike Sententia  24:38

That’s right. It lets people try it out and see for themselves. I think that’s a like. I think that’s the current stance to take on energy healing See for yourself.

 

Manon Bolliger  24:47

Yeah, exactly. And it’s true. Most energy feeler healers feel that way because they they’ve seen it. It’s not like, you know? They don’t have to say. More about it, but it’s true by putting this guarantee you’re talking in their language, from their point of view, that’s right, nothing to be like and that’s part of the whole healing mechanism, is to be at the same level, right? You know, to be able to speak the same language, you know. When you’re starting on the terms that no one’s going to have issues with.

 

Mike Sententia  25:25

Let’s go. I’m the guy who knows it works. Let me take the risk,

 

Manon Bolliger  25:28

right, right? Exactly, good. Actually, we have one more minute. Rife. I mean, where are you from? Which? Where do you live? Or

 

Mike Sententia  25:40

based in Oakland, California. I do in person sessions in Oakland, I do distance sessions everywhere. A lot of energy healers. When they do distance sessions, they will meditate on your picture to send the energy. And I always wonder, how reliable can that be? How do you get the energy right where it needs to go? So I take a different approach. I make an energy connection to a card. I mail it to the person. When we have the session, they touch the card to whatever spot I’m working with. I use my connection to the card to bridge a connection to them, and use that to send the energy. And it’s still strange to me sometimes that the laws of physics allow for this to work. But people’s pain keeps coming down, so I keep believing in it. So listeners, if you’re having pain and you’re in Oakland, come see me. If you’re not in local Oakland, reach out. We’ll get a card in your hands free consultation at healing lab.org, that.org’s not.com

 

Manon Bolliger  26:32

Okay. Well, thank you for sharing that. And I was, like, very positive and optimistic, you know, sessions, and this gives, like so much hope and and it’s, it’s guaranteed, it’s backed. So that’s wonderful. Thank you so much. Thank you so much for having me. I just want to comment on the last part of the interview with Mike sententia, and it’s the the he has a with people, an interview, and then a treatment, and then you get billed, and if it worked, you pay. And if it did, if it doesn’t, you have a choice than to do it again, or whatever the the arrangement is. And, yeah, I just think that’s a it’s a really interesting model, especially if you’re new in the field, and if you like, if you can afford to you know, you have your your clinic, your space, if you can afford the rent, to be able to offer that to people you know. Or when you start a new practice to, you know, do that for the tempers people each month, or, I don’t know, some, something like that. It’s a, it’s a very interesting model, because if you have the confidence in what you do, then it really shines through. And that’s a way of saying, I have the confidence that you know I’ve seen results. You can never promise that you’ll see results in that person. We know that individually, things can happen differently. But if you have the confidence that you know that the service really does work. It’s really putting your your your money where your what’s the walk, your talk, or whatever, putting your money where it’s worth I can always, I can never get these right. Anyway, I’m going to do a session with with him for my my partner, Tony, because he’s been in pain for a very long time, and we have had help here and there by, you know, many, many different people, and many therapies that I have seen work for tons of people except him, and then my own, you know, my own practice, I’ve not been able to help him. You know, just moments here and there, little periods where maybe that remedy was right, or maybe, you know, the Bowen did relax his system, but nothing that looks like a cure. So this has been a very interesting journey for for me in the last while to see what’s really out there. And you know, when people are at their wit’s end and it looks like there’s no hope, it’s just wonderful when people like that show up and and there’s hope again. So I will keep you posted. We’re both really excited.

 

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