the two by four came comes down. So I waited for the two by four to come down. I was so focused on keeping my business going, I was sort of like, shush, I don’t want to hear you, and I want everyone to learn to listen to their body, because their body is very smart. So that’s my first tip to everybody. But I woke up one morning and everything hurt. Do I have the flu? What the heck’s going on here? And after five days it hadn’t gotten better, so I went to the doctor, started getting tests run, five rounds of tests, nothing wrong with me, baloney. I knew something was wrong, but I said to her, I’m going to dig into this and I’m going to find out what’s wrong with me. So you’ll be back. I said, no, I probably won’t. And I was really lucky because I tripped into what’s now known as the functional medical community, and this was 14 years ago at the time. They were all fairly new as functional doctors, and they were running all kinds of symposiums, and I watched 19 of them with multiple doctors, and I made notes. I started writing down what their threads were, and the first thing that caught. My attention was they all either got sick themselves and couldn’t help themselves or they had a loved one get sick that they couldn’t help, so they ended up going for the additional functional medical training, which means they looked at the whole body and not just at a body part that was causing trouble, and so that’s where I started, and I was lucky, but I wrote down notes like toxic load. What was toxic load about the fact that I should be eating organic, real food, which resonated with me. That was logical. So I started looking into what does that mean, and how could I do that? And as I learned things, I started to implement. I started researching all the toxins in my life, and I was appalled because they were everywhere. They were in my food, they were in the way my food was grown, they were in the processed food, everything that went in or on or near my body was toxic, and things like the cosmetic industry functions by monitoring itself, and they’re not doing a good job at it. The first thing I looked up on a website called ewg.org was my face makeup, and it was an expensive French brand that was a nine out of 10 on toxicity, so literally I had been poisoning myself right through my skin, and I got angry. Why was my government allowing me to be poisoned? And I mentioned that because I can’t tell you how many people along the course of my journey said my government wouldn’t allow me to get poisoned. It is every day, and so I decided I found a man named Howard Lyman who wants us all to be an army of one and own it ourselves and search for what we need, and I decided I was going to be an army of one, so I dug it. I found a woman named Dr. Deanna Minnich who believes in eating the rainbow of all the different colors of organic food, because each color has different gifts for the body. So I started going to farmers markets, buying my food as close to the farm as I could, because things like spinach lose 30% of their potency within three days. I wanted to get stuff into my body, on my body, and around my environment that would stop poisoning me, so that I could. I was determined I was going to get well, and I never doubted that I would find what I needed to reverse what was going on with my body. So that’s important too, because as I work with clients now, I have learned that if they don’t believe it’s possible, then it’s not going to happen. I’m working with someone with MS right now whose doctor keeps telling him his disease is going to progress.

 

Manon Bolliger  07:54

Yeah, and I

 

Cheryl Meyer  07:55

said, “Okay, your tour this week is to have a conversation with him to stop saying that, because as long as he says it and you believe it, guess what, that’s exactly what’s going to happen. You have to believe that you are the captain of your ship, you are the creator, and you can change the direction of your health if you start to change your environment. One of the people I started following was Dr. Bruce Lipton, who discovered and formed the theory of epigenetics that our genetics have nothing to do with what we get, it has to do with our body and what the environment is like that genetics is sitting in. So, if you’re constantly putting in toxins, which are poison. Guess what, you’re going to get sick if you’re constantly eating the ultra-processed diet, which is fake food. You’re not giving your body anything to run on, so guess what, you’re going to get sick. So you have to change your environment and start doing things that give your body the opportunity to return back to balance that really became the key. It didn’t happen overnight. It took me five years to eliminate every toxin I could find in my air, in my perfume, in the cleaning materials that I had, in my food, in my pots and pans, and the things that I was cooking with, and what I was storing my food in, in the water coming out of my tap. It took me five years to get rid of all of that poison, and so I’ll tell you, it’s not easy. You have to have an intention. You have to stay focused. I did it systematically, category by category, but in five years I started to feel pretty darn good again, and I went on Medicare and found my own functional doctor, and even that wasn’t easy. There is a site called ifm.org where you can put in your zip code and they pop up, but none of them at the time took any kind of insurance. Parents, and so I ended up driving two hours to the person who I thought could help me, and it was worth it, because she took me to the next level. She knew things that I hadn’t found, like that I had all kinds of food sensitivities, and it ended up I had 19 of them, and by eliminating those, wow, it was instant pain relief, and I stopped having flares every other day. So it’s like finding your jigsaw puzzles, but you stay so focused and so convinced that you’re going to find all your puzzle pieces, you just keep going until you start feeling great, and that’s the goal. I had felt lousy for years, and thought that was the way I was supposed to feel, because by the time I got sick, I was already 63 Well, today I’m 77 and I feel way better than I did in my 40s and my 50s. So, it’s not age, it has to do with how I live my life and what I’ve done with my environment to create a life that’s clean that supports me and it is so worth

 

Manon Bolliger  11:12

it right now. How did you get that like deep knowing that you’re going to find a solution and you just need to keep going.

 

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Cheryl Meyer  12:31

Well, in a lot of ways I was lucky because I grew up with two parents whose favorite thing to say to me was I could do anything I set my mind to.

 

Manon Bolliger  12:40

Okay, okay. Both

 

Cheryl Meyer  12:41

of my parents got unusual diseases. My father got a very rare epilepsy, and he was a scientist, so he was constantly researching because he wanted to help himself with that. And then my mother got something called multiple system atrophy, which is related to Parkinson’s, but not Parkinson’s, so nobody in the heck out there in the doctor field had a clue what to do with her and so I started digging into medical journals and finding things myself, so when I would go to medical appointments with them, I would raise questions, have you thought of this, could we try that, and the response in the beginning from their doctors was, Who’s the doctor here, and my response was, Who’s the daughter? My mother’s doctor, I said, How many patients do you have? He said, several 100. I said, Well, I only have one mother, so could we do this together, because I can concentrate on things that might help her that you’re not going to find, because you have 200 of her, and she was supposed to only live two years and she lived 10 and when she died he called me and said I wish everybody had a daughter like you he said because our success was because we did do it together yeah so I knew that if I dug into whatever was going on with my body which was not even given a diagnosis that I was going to find it, and I was determined that I was going to find it. Ended up, I had fibromyalgia, Hashimotos, IBS, I had type two diabetes that my doctor had missed, and it was bad. My A 1c was 7.7 I mean it was high, and so, and then as I started working with my functional doctor, I also discovered by accident that I had a fatty liver,

 

Manon Bolliger  14:33

right? So,

 

Cheryl Meyer  14:34

and that wasn’t a surprise, since I had the diabetes, and I had eaten poorly for 63 years of my life, so that became a concentration to learn everything I could learn about the liver, which is the workhorse of the body. So, if your liver isn’t healthy, it impacts everything else going on in your body, and it actually ends up, it’s the number one cause of heart disease. So, you need to follow the threads. That you discover as you research, and you need to take it seriously, that each of these little gems is going to get you one step closer to feeling great, and that’s what I did. I am now 14 years away from starting this journey. I still have some puzzle pieces I’m looking for. Somebody who follows me on Facebook said, are you really as healthy as you say you are? I feel great every day, I pop out of bed happy as heck, because the food I eat turns on all my happiness, right? Yeah, I am as healthy as I tell you I am, but that doesn’t, as it is, and you never stop looking for your pieces,

 

Manon Bolliger  15:43

right? Right now, so how in your search, right? So I understand the background, where you knew that researching was something that could be done, right? So that’s a lot of people just think that somehow doctors know everything, and they don’t research, and you know part of it is true, they, they don’t research, because a lot of times now, you know, it’s like they’re overwhelmed by crazy, silly hours where you don’t get to know your patient or client at all, and and then they have these, you know, reps that tell them, well, this will fix that and that, and so it’s like, it’s like, okay, you know what, I’ll just use the cookbook rather than use my brain and go deeper, and so I think a lot of the art of really asking questions and getting to the root of things has been lost, you know. Not

 

Cheryl Meyer  16:46

everyone. I actually read that from when something new gets discovered. It’s discovered in whatever it’s minute field is in, and it can take as long as 15 years before it will get into the general medical journal that your doctor might read it right, so your thing is you want to find it early. If there’s something new that you want to pull the thread on and question, and I’ve had formed partnerships with every doctor I’ve had, and I will go to anybody who can help me. I have a naturopath, I have a functional doctor. I have a regular doctor, and they all know I’m in charge of my health. You are my partner, you are my advisor, and we’re going to take care of my health together. And I currently have a conventionally trained doctor who lives holistically, so he gets it, and his theory is you do the least invasive first, and then if you have to, then you can go to taking that serious medication, or doing that surgery, or whatever it is, but we always start with the least invasive, and you need to find those doctors that you believe will support your body in finding holistic solutions, and it doesn’t mean I don’t take drugs, because the drug can mitigate whatever is going on in my body until I can change my lifestyle enough to start to cure it, and the doctor knows if I’m going to take a drug, I’m going to research it, I’m going to know what the downside is, because they all come with gifts, both good and bad, and so if I start to get better, then he’s going to help me wean off of that medication, because I’m not taking it forever. And one of the first things I had to learn is there is no magic pill. You are the magic pill. People my age think they’re going to find the magic pill, and they’re going to feel better and be able to live out life. It doesn’t exist. You are the magic pill, and your lifestyle changes are the magic that your body can convert to wellness. So, you have to own it. You have to question, you have to research, and there’s probably some bad information out there, as well as good information. So, I found doctors that I trusted, and that’s where I would start as I researched each subject, but you can do it, and then you go to whoever your care taker is, and you have a robust conversation with them, so that you’re sure you stay on track for getting the best possible solution for your body, not in your body. He doesn’t know how you feel.

 

Manon Bolliger  19:25

No, no, exactly. So, so the research part I get, the the drive that you’re going to get on top of this, and that, well, no, that’s not that one. Sorry, because I think that you were an entrepreneur before, so right. I know where drive comes from, and

 

Cheryl Meyer  19:45

I’m an A personality, which my stress level was so out of control. I shot up and used up all my cortisol and was borderline Addison’s disease when I got sick. That was one of. First places I had to dig in and get under control.

 

Manon Bolliger  20:03

Okay, so actually that’s interesting. Let’s go there for one moment. How did you choose to get that under control out of all the technologies out there and things? What did you do?

 

Cheryl Meyer  20:17

Well, I decided I was going to take a yoga class,

 

Manon Bolliger  20:21

okay,

 

Cheryl Meyer  20:22

but I don’t like yoga where they’re going to tie me into a knot,

 

Manon Bolliger  20:25

okay.

 

Cheryl Meyer  20:26

So I looked until I found a local class, which was by a company called Body and Brain, and they’re all over the country, and they do a towel yoga that’s a combination of some yoga, some isometric, some general wellness, mind over body. It was a combination of everything, and I have to add to it. While I was looking for this yoga class, I had also been in a long-term relationship with a man who wasn’t going to change for me. He was not going to let me dictate how he was going to eat, he was not going to adopt any healthy habits, and so after many years we had to break, which was just all additional stress, which didn’t help the situation. So I found my yoga class, and then I dug in what were other solutions, and I found a man who started integrative medicine, called Dr. Andrew Weil, and he had come up at that point, which was 15 years ago. Now, there are all kinds of breathing exercises, but I do his breathing exercise, which takes four minutes to go through the rounds, and it releases all the tension in your nervous system, and lets you take the top off your stress, so you can function again.

 

Manon Bolliger  21:51

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Manon Bolliger  23:24

for sure. Yeah, so you know, it’s kind of funny. It’s like, just not, they’re just doing a job without consciousness many times, you know. And that’s how we got into the latest, you know, fiasco of crazy cancers and everything from these so-called, you know, mRNA shots, and I mean it’s just crazy, and you know people still believe this idea that the governments are all good for us and authority is good, and you know, we really have to question everything. We have to question our education, we have to question our health, everything about it. And you have to take

 

Cheryl Meyer  24:08

the time to look into it. We just got neurotic glyphosate because, and Bayer has paid out $80 million to people who got the lymphoma, that glyphosate, which is Roundup, which is sprayed everywhere. It’s sprayed on your food, it’s sprayed in your schoolyard, it’s sprayed on your public places. Your dog is walking in it. We had just gotten everyone to start to wean themselves off of that for weeds, and we’re talking about weeds. Would you want to get sick and some kind of cancer, or would you want to get rid of wheats, so we finally did that, and now Bayer has gotten the government to reverse all that, and they’re going to start spraying it on everything,

 

Manon Bolliger  24:47

food now. Yeah,

 

Cheryl Meyer  24:48

yeah. Well, it’s better than our food. No, I know, but

 

Manon Bolliger  24:51

yeah, I mean,

 

Cheryl Meyer  24:54

we get wrenched in it because it makes it give them a bigger yield, yeah. And so anytime you eat anything with conventional wheat, you are poisoning yourself with

 

Manon Bolliger  25:05

no, yeah, no, it’s yeah, it’s it’s really a big problem if people don’t look at all of those things, you know, it’s, you know, I’m not your

 

Cheryl Meyer  25:18

host, that of the greatest magnitude either, but when you hear me say something, look into it, see if I’m right, see if that would help you,

 

Manon Bolliger  25:26

right? No, for sure. Okay. Well, you know what, our time’s like up.

 

Cheryl Meyer  25:31

Sorry about that.

 

Manon Bolliger  25:33

But why don’t you give us where people can find out more about you and your resources? That would be wonderful. And

 

Cheryl Meyer  25:41

I have two books on Amazon, all the steps I took step by step to get rid of all the toxins. That’s 117 awards, because no one has a layman had explained it step by step before, and it’s got a huge bibliography in the back of all the people I follow that I go to for information. So the book was like gold. Then my functional doctor asked me to write the second one. Was okay, you don’t live in an isolated life, so how do you live in society and follow all these rules now that you don’t want to deviate from? So I wrote Living Low Toxin, and that’s also up on Amazon, and it’s Wannade Awards. So those two books, and those are things like, How do I vet a restaurant? How do I go to somebody else’s house for dinner without driving them nuts that they have to cook away from me? All those things are in the second book. So then I have started doing tons of free resources, and they’re all up on issue as flip books. I did an A to Z magazine, which will tell you things like what were my signs that I was getting sick that I ignored. What are all the what are all my healthy habits that I want you to adopt, because some of them may not seem logical. Getting seven hours of sleep is one of them, because that six to seventh hour is when all the plaque gets swept out of your brain, so it’s important. So I have all of that in there. My functional doctor wrote an article, my nature of path wrote an article, my toxin expert wrote an article who’s created a plant enzyme cleaning material, and she has low toxin resources on her website community is number one for health, so a woman who started chemo buddies, which is not to tell you what to do if you get cancer, but to give you love in a community, because no one should go through it alone, wrote an article, a woman who had two botched back surgeries, who ended up at the same towel group, has a big thing here in Sedona. They have a 500 acre retreat. She ended up there and finally got her life back. So she and they did a documentary that ended up on PBS, called so they wrote an article, so the articles are great. You will learn a ton, and they will give you places. What do I do when I go to a convention and I want to take my own food? All of that is in my magazine. Then I wrote a book, because people were confused on what to eat, and my rule is, if there’s a word on that label that you don’t know or don’t can’t pronounce, you just put it back on the shelf, you don’t put it in your body, but I decided I needed to break it down, so I wrote, How did we get into this mess? What exactly is ultra-processed food, because it will make you throw up, and then what should you be eating, and I don’t care if you’re vegan, vegetarian, paleo, pagan, pescetarian. I don’t care. I give you the rules because it starts with I want 70% of it to be organic plant food, and I explain why organic, and I explain how important the vagal nerve is, and how important fiber is, because you don’t get any fiber in ultra-processed food, and you need it, because that’s how your information system works,

 

Manon Bolliger  29:05

right?

 

Cheryl Meyer  29:06

Everything gets piggyback on that fiber and goes over to your vagal nerve, which delivers it everywhere. So, that book is there, my stress book. I have a three minute guide to stress exercises to keep on your desk, because it’s that important, and if you keep it on your desk, maybe you’ll remember to pick it up and pick one of the exercises and do them, so that’s there. Then I started really feeling like my big problem that I got sick from was because I was not practicing self care or self love, so I wrote a book called Radical Self Care, because it’s not just taking a bubble bath at night, everything in your life that will help you be the best that you can be,

 

Manon Bolliger  29:50

right.

 

Cheryl Meyer  29:51

And I have adopted things like heart mass, which helps me get out of my brain, which talks trash to me, and go into my heart. Which is your second brain and has as many neurons as your brain does

 

Manon Bolliger  30:05

send people to your site, but it will allow you to

 

Cheryl Meyer  30:09

communicate with the universe in a language that can hear you, and I love it. It’s the most relaxing thing I could possibly do. So that’s in there, the importance of Sion and milk thistle, and all the things I did to take care of my healthy liver, it’s all there, and they’re all in flip books. An issue you can get to that by going to Cheryl M Health News, which I have at the bottom.com and on the front page it will lead you to all my books, but any book that you go to will lead you to all of them.

 

Manon Bolliger  30:39

Great. Well, thank you so much for your time, but also all this work that you’ve put out. It really makes it a lot easier when people.. it

 

Cheryl Meyer  30:49

became my mission and my passion. Yeah, I figured out that I needed to sell the business and change the direction of my life, and it has been remarkably fulfilling, but you have to believe it, and you have to implement as you learn, or nothing will change.

 

Manon Bolliger  31:09

Thank you, Cheryl.

 

Cheryl Meyer  31:11

Thank you for having me. I obviously get excited, and I love to talk about this stuff. So, thank you. I appreciate the opportunity, Doctor, your audience.

 

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