just remotely. Okay, so the first screen that we’re looking at when we look at the scan here, and just so you know, there’s a lot of information contained here, and you’re going to get the report when we’re done, and you’re going to go through it in more detail than we can cover right here, because even in an hour consultation, there’s always way more information than we can cover. So and I also just wanted to just make a caveat here too, that this is not a diagnostic tool, so I don’t diagnose anything here. What we’re really just looking at is the energy patterns in the body, but often what we see is they correlate and they overlap with the diagnosis is that we have. So in this case, Tony, just want to explain to people, just quickly what it is that you have and you were suffering with, yeah,

 

Tony  08:17

excuse me. So it started off I had shingles and that, that went away quite quickly with Manon doing homeopathy. And then after that, it’s kind of called post neuralgia. And it’s, it’s pain all all the way down my right hand side and in my ear. And basically it feels like somebody sticking knitting needles in me, like, I’m very visual like that, or, yeah, it’s, it’s been, really, it’s very painful, and I had that quite consistently throughout the day

 

Dayna Wylder  08:52

between so I think first I’m sorry to hear that that’s going on, and I think when I looked at your scan, that we can definitely see Some things that are kind of aligning with what’s going on with you. So the first screen that we look at is energy source. And energy source is really about how we gain energy from the outside, so external energy, and how we bring it into the body, because everything in life is an energy exchange, and without energy, we die. So these ones in the beginning, when we’re looking at it, are the fundamentals, sort of our diet and bringing, you know, through chemistry into the body, movement, hydration, oxygenation, how we’re sleeping in the day and the night. And then further down on here we’re looking at things like the big field alignment. So this is more about our relationship with the bigger energies of the earth. So the polarities, the equilibrium of the Earth, the axis of North being at the top and south at the bottom, matching also in our head, that we’re more negative at the top and so a positive at the bottom. We’re looking here for priorities, which will show. As purple or as these orange ones. When you have three bars of orange or solid all the way across in purple, nothing comes up here as a major priority for you, which means that all of the ways in which you’re bringing in energy that you’re, you know, capable of controlling, you’re doing a good job. And I did see on your intake form that you you do exercise, and you do eat well, and you avoid lots of toxic things. And I sure that helps having your wife be a naturopath, and knowing how to really like, take care of the body. So there’s nothing really on this screen to discuss you could really like if you want, you when you’re going home and you’re looking at these things afterwards when you click on them, just to be aware that it brings you to another screen, which will discuss that that energy field, and things that could potentially go wrong with it, and solutions that you might have to improve it. But because of time today, I’m not going to go into the orange ones. I’m going to try to just stick with the purple priorities. So the next screen that we come to is our energy strength screen. And this one is, if anybody’s familiar here, with germination theory. So this is the idea that when we first develop in utero, that that source, the very first one here, that’s like the the the egg being fertilized. So that’s that first spark of life that comes. And then as that baby develops in utero, what are all of the things that are developing at the same time? So our heart imprinter is developing next, and then we’re going through to the cells starting to divide. We get a nervous system, our blood starts to circulate, and so on, and this is how we end up when when you look at Chinese medicine, linking things like our liver, our gallbladder and our eyes, even though they’re not beside each other, necessarily touching in our physical body, they were all developing at the same time as we were developing in our mothers. So they energetically share a similar pattern and frequency. So this is where we get our first purple for you. And we get this in our in the lung driver. So the driver is now about the strength. It’s the driver of the energy. So how strong is the energy going through this part of your body? And although we didn’t have a purple one on the energy source, you do see that there is a little bit of yellow here under oxygen, so it is showing that we are having, you’re having an issue bringing proper oxygen in, and that’s affecting the drive and how much energy is in the lung. Now, the lungs, like I seen in your intake form that you do exercise and you do yoga, so I’m sure that you are familiar with diaphragmatic breathing, but one of the things that happens when we have a lot of pain is we tend to hold our breath because pain is constricting. Pain is holding and it’s intense when we’re having it, and when that’s happening, the chance that we’re taking a really big belly breath that’s slow and rhythmic, it really diminishes. And so there was something here, just about the vitality of the breath and the amount of oxygen that you’re bringing in, that really would be beneficial to try. I know one of the strategies you’re using when the pain is to get up and walk around, but maybe adding to that, really trying to breathe into the pain, and to try to really keep in mind that oxygen is the like. It’s probably 90% of the energy that we get from the outside source, right is to bring oxygen into the body and moving it around. And when we fail to do that adequately, it really affects everything downstream, because oxygen is going to go through the blood and then into every single organ in the body, so it is really a primary thing. And when we see problems with the lung driver, it tends to have low vitality, so energy will get very low. And there’s a lot of immune function done in the lungs as well. And so immune system will also get compromised. And now with shingles, you know, it is a virus, the herpes virus, that once we have it as children, as children, as chicken pox, that does come up again in these other kinds of forms. And so there is something there to do with your immune system, and it manifests it again in shingles. And now, once we have an issue in the lungs, it can really lower the immune response ongoing as well, too. So something you know, just as a practice, maybe to do at home for this would be tracing the lung meridian. So right in the you know this, this, this indent, sort of between your shoulder and your chest. When you press into it, you’ll feel a natural indent there, and sometimes it’s actually a little bit of pain, and especially when you have a problem with your lung, when you press into there, it tends to be a bit tender. And so you can always do just as a practice to try to bring strength back into the lung. Driver is massage. That trigger point, that acupressure point, and after you massage it for about 30 seconds, you’re just going to trace down the inside of your arm and all the way down and out your thumb. And you just trace that a couple times. So from that point and you trace it all the way down your arm and out your thumb, and just repeating that maybe three times and both sides, and that’ll bring energy into the area. So we are going to do treatments today with energy devices, but this is something that’s free and accessible, and you could do it multiple times throughout the day to try to bring new energy into the lung. Now, the only other thing that showed up here, and there’s a couple of them that, again, they’re not purple, so I won’t spend a lot of time there, but they do show up as orange. Is kidney, spleen and bone, and when I look at this as a pattern, now, there’s a lot on your skin about the energetic terrain for immunity. So kidneys has a lot to do with energy as well. It’s where we keep our store Jing. So the Chinese say this is where you get your ancestral energy reserves from. And when we get sick and depleted, we kind of deplete that Jing. And it is something that, when I looked at this scan, your adrenals come up, and adrenals is and we see it here in the kidneys coming in the adrenals, that this is something that when we have fight or flight or we’re stressed or we’re worrying about something, it tends to to activate, and we produce a lot of cortisol. And when we’re doing that, we’re not really producing the other hormones in the body, because we’re spending a lot of time in this one spot. Now also with the kidneys. That’s a lot with energy we see the spleen. And spleen is also another big energy organ in the body, so and it has a lot to do with immunity as well. So some of the things here is like learned immunity, the spleen is also your lymph and cleaning of blood and production of antibodies. So again, we’re seeing something here with the immune system being activated for you. And although bone does a lot of things in the bone, we’re also that’s where you make your immune cells and your red blood cells. So seeing the bone show up there as well, says to me, again, something with your immune system, and that learned immune system. So when you’re having chicken pox and you’re younger and it’s coming back as shingles, that there’s something energetically stuck that didn’t quite process through, which could be why you’re still having a residual effect, even though the virus itself isn’t active anymore, but you’re having this neurological pain as a result. So when you’re going to look at this later, I want you just to also pay attention that when you click on these, that not only are you getting the write up at the bottom, but you’re also getting sorry I’m just going to move this. You get these little windows over here, like drop down menu, and you can move through these because it’s giving you all kinds of more information. So the next one, when we move one screen over, now we’re an energy flow, and energy flow, to me, is more akin to the meridians. So now we’re dealing directly with the organs and the meridian systems that correspond with them. And you didn’t have purple showing up on this one. There’s only some orange. But what I thought was interesting is that you got the neurosensory large intestine. And lung is a yin organ, and it is paired with the large intestine, which is the Yang partner for the lung, and this one comes up here as well. And the neurosensory part of this is you also have, like the when we see here the dermis, so this is the skin, and it is the a lot of our nerves. So 90% of our nerves are actually sensory nerves going up to the brain, and only 10% are the motor neurons going out. So when we have an issue here within the nerves and the senses in the dermis, that can be where this prickling the sensation of pain is, can be coming from, and it is related to the large intestine, because it’s linked to the lung and immunity. And when we think of these things energetically, now and emotionally, the lungs is related a lot with grief and sadness and holding on to those kinds of emotions. And it’s also about what do we take in? So it’s really at the top of the system, like we eat, we swallow the air comes to our lungs, and then the other system is eating and swallowing food, and it ends at large intestine out to the colon. So both of these systems are about, what are we taking in, what are we assimilating and what are we ready to let go of? Because the lungs need to let go of the carbon dioxide and the the intestines need to let go and. Of the waste products on the other end. So there is a sense, sometimes of emotionally learning how to take in what was only necessary, make sense of it, and then learning to let go of it on the other end. So, you know the emotional stuff, I’m not, you know it’s it’s hard for me to say, because I’m not in your head, and I don’t know you well enough, you’ll have to kind of make sense for yourself some of the emotional components as we go through but I wanted to just point out some of the places where we start to see things light up on this little man over here. So when we’re looking here now, instead of purples and oranges, we’re looking for number score. So when we have a zero, that’s low, and four is the high. So we’re looking really for threes and fours on this to see where things are kind of lighting up. And I noticed when I was looking at yours that we had a so things in the colon again, and also in the sinus and in the lungs. So this one we’re seeing here, we have three in the ascendant colon, the lymphatics, which also was an orange when we come over to here, we’re seeing a lot in the cranial sinus field and in the frontal sinus field. And when you’re talking about this pain being up and around your ears and this part of your sinus on the side. These are places that are lighting up also on here. And that was kind of consistent when I was looking through it. Some of the ones that maybe it didn’t. And there’s your adrenals again, also showing up with a four. So even though this wasn’t lit up as something that we were showing a purple for, it’s still really informative. If you go through this and start to just click on things and really have a look, especially because Manon, you’re really going to understand this, you know, with your background, all these connections and what this could really mean for Tony, and ways that you can now support him at home too, because there’s really a wealth of information beyond one hour of our time together. So yes, we’re looking for the purples. That’s what we’re going to give treatments for, and that’s what we’re going to give emphasutical products for. But there’s really so many layers here of things that are just kind of connecting. So the next one we move to now is to the mind body, and this is now where we start getting less in the physical and the organs and meridians and more into the mind. So these first four here, which one is purple for you, are different types of holograms in the brain. So yours is lighting up under the brain stem. So brainstem is the most primal part of our brain, the older parts of our brain. And there’s a lot to do here with, like the feeling of survival and safety, almost, you’d think of here, like the Root Chakra, almost like this is kind of like the origins and those most primal of kind of feelings. And the hologram here just means that what is the kind of overarching map or frequency our mind is sending into our body. And when we get stuck here, that hologram keeps projecting these feelings into the field, and our thoughts and our emotions end up manifesting as physical symptoms in the body. So again, when you’re looking at this, we can click on to these, these side things, and we come over here. And again, we’re looking at the numbers, so we’re seeing which ones are lighting up for you. So we have isolation as one emotion, fairness, feeling vulnerable. And again, if you click on one of these, when you go down to the bottom, you’ll get a little write up about this. And so I would really take the time to go through these, because I think that for a lot of people, we might underestimate how much our thoughts shape our emotions, and how much the emotions then create a physical cascade of a chemical reaction in the body that actually really blankets us, either in healing hormones or unhealthy ones, and so the mind really has a profound effect on whether we heal or we get better or we don’t. Another one that lit up for you here is liberator, and Liberator is one of the they’re called feel good Intraceuticals. So they’re ones that are just available without a practitioner. So I don’t have to scan somebody in order for them to buy these ones. They can just make an account and then just buy them online. And the feel good Intraceuticals are kind of more emotionally based, or like something just like cold, flu immunity, or you need something help with sleep. So the Liberator one is an overarching intraceutical That sort of liberates the the stored trauma in the mind. So whatever you’ve been sort of holding back, suppressing, maybe things that were in the subconscious that hadn’t come to your awareness, and a. Lot of people, when they take the Liberator infoceutical, they find that they have really vivid dreams, or they even start to daydream more frequently. Or kind of insights might come. And I know that you mentioned you meditated, so probably when you’re meditating, you might have some more profound insights, or things that sort of come to you when you’re taking the liberator, because it kind of takes off that dampening that we do sometimes when we’re kind of, you know, not really facing maybe, or not really bringing up to the surface what’s going on. And on this one on this screen when we’re in the mind body. Now there’s also different tabs going across the top here. So we click into the emotion and the one that comes up in the positive emotion, and I not really sure I agree with the way they categorize these as positive and negative, because I don’t really think that there are good and bad emotions. They just there’s just emotions they suit the situation they’re in. The problem comes when we ruminate or we stay stuck on them. Our goal is just to feel them, acknowledge them, and let them go. But love shows up for you. And I just want to make another caveat here. With the emotions, it doesn’t always mean that you have not enough, or it could be too much, right these things. That’s why you got to look at it with your own intuition and kind of see how these things come to you. What it’s just saying is that in your energy field, love stood out more than the other ones, and sometimes even with these and I’ve seen this happen. I had a friend whose child passed away last year, and because of my own scenario of having lost a child too, I was very much grieving for him. And for months, grief kept showing up on my scan, but it wasn’t even my grief. It was for somebody else. And I’ve also seen it come up for people who are just really into a good book, and they were reading about a character, and then that emotion that they felt for that character was in their scan. So again, using intuition on these ones, and then on the negative flip side of this, grief was showing up. And I don’t know if that resonates any of these in any way to you, but grief also is really linked with the lungs, and we’ve seen already some issues with the lungs and immunity. And then moving on to the next screen, we have energetic immunity. And I’m sure people maybe that listen to your show might be familiar with the difference between germ theory and terrain theory, but if not, I’ll just give a little synopsis of it. Yeah, so germ theory really says that everything is a pathogen or a virus that’s attacking us, and that it all, you know, really just comes down to we have bad genes and we have viruses that come in our body, and then we’re kind of at the mercy of what happens, where terrain theory is more the idea that the environment that in which we create within our mind and our body sets the terrain for whether something will ever, you know, affect us or not. So it’s kind of, I think the best example I’ve ever heard said about it is when you have a fish tank, if the fish starts getting some kind of scaly disease. Do you give the fish antibiotics first, or do you clean the tank? Right? And so terrain theory is really about what is, what does our tank look like? You know? What are we living in? And in this is the screen that lit up most for you, where we have the most purples coming up. So we have central nervous system immune to and then we have autoimmune at the bottom, and all of these really have a lot to do with your immunity. And it’s not so much the necessarily the innate immunity, which we did see, though, in the spleen and the bone drivers coming up. So there might be a bit of that too, but this is more like how, what kind of state is your body in right now, in order to fight off things if it comes into contact with it, so with the central nervous system, we also, yeah, so central nervous system Now, in this case, it’s not so much like maybe for me and you that have MS, we might see more things like glial cell come up, or the actual driver for the nervous system, where we’re actually showing there is an energetic problem with the nerves. In this case, for Tony, it’s not that the nerves are showing up here. It’s the the environment in which the nerves are in currently, which would make sense, because he doesn’t really have a neurological issue, per se, right now, he has a residual effect from a virus that’s causing this central nervous system just to be activated. And one of the things that’s essential to the central nervous system, one is that it also can be linked to childhood viruses. So when we come down here, we see, sorry, that in the last line there on the blue tab that comes up that it can be affected by childhood viruses. And. Seeing as the this virus of chicken pox and shingles, it starts generally we get infected as a child. That there could be something here. The same way that MS is linked with epstein barr, is that there could be something here that because of whatever infection happened at a young age, if the body energetically didn’t come back into coherence after that infection. This is why the shingles can reactivate. And how come? Maybe the shingles is turning into two years now of suffering with neurological pain, because there’s still something in the energy body that hasn’t quite overcome that childhood virus still. And it’s not now because there’s actual virus replicating in the body. It’s not because there’s an actual active infection. It’s because the blueprint of the body surrounding that virus never corrected itself.

 

Manon Bolliger  30:50

Actually, just to add a point, then apparently the shingles hides in the bone marrow. That’s actually where, you know, again, some people say there are no viruses. It’s all environment. But whichever theory, it’s the environment of the bone marrow that’s maybe holding the memory.

 

Dayna Wylder  31:13

And you’ve seen bone marrow showed up on the scan in the beginning. And, you know, I tend to think that there’s a mix of both of these things, like, that’s where I lie on it is, there’s definitely pathogens and there’s parasites. I mean, I’ve seen them in live blood analysis and in my pets. I know that there are these things that our body comes into contact, but I still think that it’s very important for us to take full responsibility for, you know, the food we’re eating, and the terrain in our body, and the kind of people we expose ourselves to, and, you know, the kind of work we do for living all of these things matters tremendously to whether or not those viruses are dormant, or whether we fight them off, or whether we get infected and very sick from them. I meet in the middle. We both have both. I think,

 

Manon Bolliger  32:00

yeah, and I think the issue with the the virus compared to bacteria or parasites, is the the clinical, can it be isolated, right? That’s the big question. And that’s just a the artifact of, you know what, how it needs to be shown in science, right? And I think that’s the question too. It might be also, you know, maybe viruses can’t be isolated, but it doesn’t mean that they don’t exist. Maybe they’re like parasitic to a cell, you know what I mean? So it’s a very

 

Dayna Wylder  32:36

cold word. We’re trying to ask people here today to believe in things they can’t see, right? We don’t see the energy body, right? And so there’s other things. Just because we don’t prove it, doesn’t necessarily make it true or not. I think a lot of these things, it’s, how do we experience them? Yeah, right. And if we experience that we got sick from something, I mean, I guess, really, for me, does it really matter? All the other things behind it, if I, if I got sick. I got sick Exactly.

 

Manon Bolliger  33:02

And you do what you what you can, and what you can is your environment.

 

Dayna Wylder  33:06

So, right, yeah, well, it gives a lot of sovereignty and autonomy to people, you know, and it takes some of the pressure off the doctors. Because I feel like sometimes I, you know, come down on doctors, and can condemn them quite a bit, the allopathic doctors. But the truth is, is that, you know, I’ve talked to some of them before, and they say that they don’t really talk about diet and lifestyle, because there’s no compliance with people. And you know, I mean, that’s lazy on their part too, but it’s also lazy on the patient’s part that we just go to the doctor and say, You know what, I have a lifetime of not taking good care of myself. Now, give me a pill to fix it, but I don’t want to do anything about it. Just fix me, right? It’s really, you know, we can’t just only blame one side. We really have to look at like, what is this relationship, and where is it broken, and what, what can we do to fix it? Right? Yeah, so moving into the energy, or, sorry, the immune to coming up this one. I mean, it has a lot to do with immunity and generally heavy metals. Now, I never really like when I looked on. I’m just going to jump screens here for a minute. When I go to your environment and I locked I looked at toxic metals, there’s allege showed up a little bit, but there’s none that are really outstanding here. So I have a feeling when I look at that, that there could be something other than a heavy metal some of them have to do like especially more when you see it in immune three has more to do with immunity, that that fails after a trauma. And so maybe this one’s bleeding into that a little bit more where there would be a stressful event, something much like my own, Ms during the pandemic, right when I was being threatened by work and all of these things, it lowered my immune system. And then that, you know, creates now the perfect breeding ground for my MS to come back and attack, and maybe something like that going on here too, where there was just something that just kind of takes you off your center enough that your immune system struggles and the. Things come back into your environment, I

 

Manon Bolliger  35:02

think for because Tony’s right now in an acute moment of pain. So I’ll just speak for him. But I think you know, for the etiology of this, it was during the pandemic when, you know, we were aware that this, you know, there’s a lot of dangers, and we were trying to avoid family taking unnecessary routes on experimental things, but we weren’t allowed to speak and and I think that this, this being shut up and being seen as a tinfoil Hatter, and, you know, not really following the science and all this business was, was a huge trigger in, in Tony’s case, yeah.

 

Dayna Wylder  35:52

And you know what you can you can see it here too. Because if I go back to the mind body again, and we look at the brain stem and the hologram, so this one, when we when you read that last line again here in the blue tab, you see that themes of survival, existence and family and what could summarize better what happened during covid, especially for those of us that understood the dangers and we’re trying to, you know, warn our family and friends to be met with them, you know, disliking us, right, and really, and at least in my case, I failed, in quite a few cases to, you know, prevent people from harming themselves now and the repercussions they’re suffering. So I think it really rocked all of our foundations. So it doesn’t surprise me that this one is showing up here and and how it is expressing itself energetically and through the rest of the scan. So when we get into the Energy stars, sorry, did you have a question there? No, no. So the Energy stars now this is where they kind of are starting to look at the patterns overall. So the ENERGY STAR is not necessarily one thing on the scan that showed up, right? Like it wasn’t, Oh, the heart cell showed up. Or this meridian, this is kind of looking at the overall pattern as to, like, what’s really going on. And in this case, the autoimmune comes up. And I don’t always see this one that it has to be like, necessarily an autoimmune disease that you’re diagnosed with here, but it’s more the fact that the body is, you know, kind of turned on itself a little bit right where it’s overactive, so that you’re the shingles. Even though it’s the, you know, whatever acute phase of the shingles is gone, the body still is in overdrive. It’s still reacting. It’s still doing something. It’s still, you know, really, in panic mode right at the adrenals are still going there. It’s feeling the pain all the time, and it becomes, you know, a cyclical though, because as you feel the pain more frequently, then you don’t breathe as good, then you’re getting less oxygen, which is making you tired, which makes the pain and sleeping worse. And, you know, it’s a very hard hamster wheel to jump out of and to really start, you know, doing the right steps to kind of heal all of it, so that we the energy patterns that have become disharmonious, can get back into alignment, so that all of the other wonderful things you do, like eating well, and, you know, hiking and yoga and meditation, all of those things, are going to become way more meaningful once You You know, correct this blueprint that’s gone awry. Now there’s another two screens on here, and I always, especially in this case, I’m going to include them here, just for the viewers to see that they’re possible. But there is so much more information here, and I feel sometimes, especially when I see people that are already have a lot of diagnoses and they’re very worried about their condition. I don’t like to give them so many things to look at, because if they see a purple or they see something, then they really start to panic about it and they worry. I’m going to include them here for everybody, just because, as a naturopathic doctor, you’ll understand some of these things and what they are in the environment. And I just want to give another caveat before we look at any of them that say like, we’ll just take mold, for example, if, if you had a whole bunch of purples in your mold showing up here, but you don’t have any symptoms of mold exposure. It’s one of those things I would just not I would just disregard it a little bit, because it could have been that you lived when you were 18 years old in an apartment that had mold in it, and you don’t any longer have the mold. It’s not an issue for you, but energetically, it’s still just like kind of hanging out there as unresolved. But I would only say some of these things matter if you have symptoms that match them. And also if you scanned month after month and they continuously showed up, because if you’re having the symptoms and these things are showing up all the time, then probably you have an issue here, and you need to address them otherwise. You know, I think that we should not. It’s kind of like with the EMF mitigation and some of these things, it’s so hard to get chemical free now and to to reduce our exposure to things. And if we stress about it and we worry about it, that negative stress and. Worry actually is counterproductive. So, you know, the only thing I’ll really talk about on this one is, like the one I usually talk to about with people, is the radiation, because this is one of the ones that we have the most control over right away. And here you actually, it looks good. There’s no purple coming up, which is very surprising in this day and age, because almost everybody I scan this is all purple here because we are on our cell phone so frequently, computers, blue lights, a lot of technology. You have a little bit showing up in the EMF. But I think in this day and age, it’s pretty difficult to to not have something here. And when I go back to your energy source, where we talked about all those ways in which we interact with the planet and the bigger energy fields. Nothing is purple here, which means that you’re actually quite balanced here, and everything looks good. And then, you know, I’ll just bring attention to that. There is a nutrition screen here, and the nutrition screen is going to go through like, say, in this case, we’re looking at the minerals. And vitamins. And I think that I read in your intake that you take B vitamins, and some of these are showing up as purple. And again, this doesn’t mean that you don’t have enough of it. It could mean you have an excess, or it could mean the one you’re taking is just maybe the wrong one. So it doesn’t necessarily mean you need to go buy a supplement right away if you see something or change anything, one of the things you always can do is using muscle testing or energy testing to hold the supplement that you’re taking to you to see. Is that one right? Is it making you stronger? Is it making you weaker? And you could maybe adjust in that regard. But again, one of those things that it you have to have a bit of intuition and guidance to kind of interpret it. But just to let you know how much more information is here, when you look at this later, there’s more drop down fields here.

 

Manon Bolliger  41:50

So you had a vitamin D, right? Showed up? Let me go back. Yeah. Vitamin D and C and C, yeah, it’s interesting, yeah, yeah. Cuz, um, it looks like, yeah. There could definitely be a deficiency of vitamin D, or, you know, a DNA clip that’s not allowing the absorption of vitamin D, you know, because he is taking vitamin D,

 

Dayna Wylder  42:22

yeah, and again, that’s one of those things that it could be that there’s okay. My sister came one time and she wanted to bring me supplements to my house. She wanted me to do more potassium and sodium, and she was talking about them, and they were sitting on the table beside us. And I scanned her, and those came up on the scan, and I think that it was because we were just talking about them. So sometimes, that’s why I say with some of these things, with a grain of salt and to kind of look at it intuitively. Because if you took these today and you were thinking about them, and they were in your mind, then energetically, those things are in the current field right now, right? So that’s why, with some of these things, like with with some clients, I don’t provide these, these tabs otherwise, yeah, but you know, the one that is interesting for a lot of people is your sensitivities. And because you had autoimmune showing up, I thought we could talk about this one just quickly. And this is looking at like, if there’s something with the glutens coming up. And I think for you, I want to say there was citrus and nightshades, but we’ll just go through them quick. So corn showing up. And I think corn for all of us, I mean, this one is one of the most genetically modified foods now. And you know, with the US trying to push corn so much, I think that it’s processed and harvested, not in very ethical or sustainable, healthy ways. And I think, yeah, I want to say it was citrus that came up

 

Manon Bolliger  43:53

your fruit, and citrus fruit, but not lemons. Yeah, interesting.

 

Dayna Wylder  44:00

So again, some of these things too is because I don’t want people to think, Oh, if they see something come up, they’re like, oh, I can never eat that again. It could be different when you scan in a couple months, that this could change where it’s like, your body just right now is just saying, Yeah, I don’t want as much of that right now, or I need more of that. And it can always be fluid and change over time. I think it was night shades I want to go to, yeah, so, so I don’t know if there was, because I know your large intestine showed up, but I think that that had more to do with the immune factor in the neurosensory part. But the large intestine, when we eat lectins that are found in the night shades, it can be damaging. So it can always scrape the lining of the intestinal tract and cause some digestion issues. I don’t know if digestion is an issue or not for you. No, I have a feeling when the when we seen it come up under the energy flow that it had more to. Do with that neurosensory and the dermis, there was more about the skin and also that it’s the it’s the Yang to the Yin of the lungs. So, you know, that’s like they’re both talking at the same time to each other. So for the scan, yeah, there’s a lot of information there. I’ll send a PDF copy to it afterwards, as well as on your account that you created. You can go back in and you can click on all of these fields and kind of go through and really see things that were maybe beyond what we had time to talk about only today and to gain deeper insights. Because there’s like, a wealth of information here, and it’s the kind of information that we don’t really get in other ways, because it’s not that often we get to look at the energetic blueprints of our bodies, and then to start to see the bigger patterns of how our emotions tie into this, how the circumstances of our life, right? Which is something that’s often missed when you just go to your regular family doctor, is that if they’re treating you for something like shingles, they’re they’re not going to correlate that to, you know, five years ago and what was happening emotionally for you, right? And so these scans are kind of a way to bridge, you know, between the realms of mind, body, energy and emotion.

 

Manon Bolliger  46:13

No, I think, I think it’s a, it’s a very good overall kind of you know, assessment, I think it’s very cool. I was thinking, though, and with permission, right, I can talk a little bit about why it’s on it’s on video, yeah, yeah, like we’ve done, or Tony has done quite a bit of work on, you know, past trauma, griefs, you know, we’ve done different therapies, like hypnotherapy and types of energetic work, you know, to release all of that over the Last, you know, at least year and a half because, you know, he knows that they’re connected. So it’s interesting, though, it doesn’t seem so far that any of them have really shifted that, you know, I mean, it

 

Dayna Wylder  47:19

depends on the practitioner as well too, right? For some of these things, like who it is that has the skills to do it, and also the shared energy to like who necessarily made you feel like the most supported and understood, because it is an energy exchange between practitioner and patient to really, you know, be seen and felt and supported through it, I think makes a big difference for people. And also, like you said in the beginning, it’s not the same thing for everybody.

 

Manon Bolliger  47:47

No, you hear

 

Dayna Wylder  47:50

these wonderful success stories with some things, and you’re like, Oh, I’m going to try that, and you follow down that hole and and you never get the same result that somebody else might have got from doing it.

 

Manon Bolliger  47:59

But no, I know, because I definitely know people who I mean, first of all, the therapists that we have seen, I would say I have no complaints on their compassion, presence, their connection, all of that was excellent, but I asked them the other question, is it timing? You know, is there? Yeah, it’ll be interesting to see. You know, what happens when we do the scan or not the scan, the the treatment here to see whether they they lift, and if they do, well, okay, that would be just unbelievably amazing. And if they don’t, then where does a person go next? You know, like, because that’s, I mean, the whole, my whole podcast is about healing, you know, the steps, what you can add. And, of course, it’s an individual thing, you know. So we could look at, you know, self sabotage. But I mean, that didn’t come up in your scan, it didn’t come up anywhere else. But, you know, you wonder, like, why is it? Some people hold on longer, you know, those types of questions, right? And, and a lot of that is not conscious, it’s unconscious, you know, so doing a lot of the unconscious work, technically, should release all of this, right? So anyway, I’ll be these are all my pre kind of questions, but yeah,

 

Dayna Wylder  49:28

and so sometimes, sometimes with the the energy devices, and it says, the reason why, when we take, like, say, the emphasutical product that goes with it, it is taking the drops every single day, because that way the body wants to go back to disharmony. Because, like even with the subconscious, we go back to our programming over and over, but we have to constantly remind the body, no, this is where we want to be. And you have to keep bringing it back and bringing it back and bringing it back. And so the the energy device is good because it gives that direct information right away into the body. But when. Use the related products to it. It’s kind of like the reminder every day. So if you’re if your body starts to go unconscious again, you’re giving it that frequency and saying, no, no, please stay here. This is where we want to resonate at now. So sometimes, even if you don’t get results, like in the first treatment, it’s not because it’s that modality doesn’t work. It’s just because it’s going to take, you know, time for the body to readjust. And I think depending on how systemic the issues become too. So some things like energy can shift very quickly, right? We change thoughts and our energies instantly shifts. But when the body gets stored emotions and trauma and they go deeper once it becomes like in the physical body. Unfortunately, the physical body is constrained with time and space. So now you know you have the length it takes to heal a nerve cell compared to a cardiac cell, compared to the tissue of skin, right? Like they all kind of have. Now you know different timelines to heal, but energetically, they can shift instantly, but sometimes the body takes a little bit to catch up to what the information has changed.

 

Manon Bolliger  51:08

Yeah, no, I would say that’s definitely consistent with what I’ve seen when I used to have a practice. So, no, I think, I think that’s true. Yeah, well, shall we do this and then I’ll, yeah, I mean, I may as well record it anyways, and I’ll cut it off if it’s too long for people to wait.

 

Dayna Wylder  51:28

Sure. I’m just trying to get the device to just turn on, because, for some reason, is not cooperating. Should I get

 

Manon Bolliger  51:35

a vial of of water to imprint this information as you’re doing it. Sorry, we repeat that again. Should I get a vial like of water, you know, like so that he can do drops of this information? Is that a good idea?

 

Dayna Wylder  51:57

Well, I mean, if you have a glass of water there, we can try to use the intention and the frequency to treat the water as well.

 

Manon Bolliger  52:04

Okay, yeah, I’m going to get the proper glass. Now. It’s interesting. Another symptom Tony has is, when we talk about his symptoms, he’s significantly worse. Okay, so he’s like now, not quite here, but I’ll bring him back in when we start. So just give me a moment.

 

Dayna Wylder  52:25

Do you mind if we just pause for one moment while I just absolutely, yeah, yeah, let me do that.

 

Manon Bolliger  52:30

Yeah. I’ll just turn that on, okay? And I can cut out anything, you know, whatever. Okay. So, yeah, okay, what

 

Dayna Wylder  52:47

we’re going to do next now for Tony is doing using my my health device. So this device is got a few different technologies in it. So if we were working in person, it has something called scene are in it, which is self controlled, energeo. Energo. Get the acronym right here, Neuro adaptive response. And what that does is it uses a micro current to go into the body. And that micro current, as the nervous system responds to it, it feeds back into the system, and they go back and forth and respond to each other. And in that case, you almost get like a magnetic, sticky feeling whenever you reach this point of low impedance. And this is where the Energy wants to almost go into the body. And you can, you can hear the difference. But in this case, because we’re working remotely, I’m going to switch it to broadcasting or off body mode. And what this is now is, for anyone that might have a hard time imagining, the same way that we’re on zoom right now with each other, is the same way that this works, is that we have, you know, a signal on both ends, and we’re sending an Open Broadcast that goes out through the ether. And any of you that are familiar with quantum physics or the quantum field, is that the easiest way I’d like to think about this idea of non non locality, or no more time and space, is if you had a sheet of paper and you pulled on one end, the entire paper moves at one point. So now that me and Tony have been discussing, and I’m reviewing his scan, and we’re discussing this, we’re already in the same connection. We’re entangled right now energetically. So as I play this device, what I’m going to have Tony do is to think about the body parts as I discuss them, and then to really send his intention there, and maybe even you massage that point, you touch it, you tap on it, you do something to just enliven that part of your body so that it knows that that’s where we’re communicating. And we’ll both use our own intention to kind of set the stage here for this healing to happen remotely. So when I start the the. Is the first thing we’re going to do, and just so everybody can see where we’re I’m getting this information from when we did the scan. This these first five things are the infoceutical products that were recommended for you based on your scan. But underneath here we have the My Health functions, and this is now where we was suggesting that we treat your lungs, your kidneys, your spleen and the perineum, which is like the kind of, like the the fascia, or the connective tissue around the entire stomach, so it’s kind of connecting the whole abdomen. But before we even get into those four specific frequencies, the first thing I want to do is play something called matrix for you. And a matrix carrier is thinking about the entire field. So this is your entire hologram, your the blueprint of Tony, the whole body. So when I start, we’re going to do two minutes, and I just want you to close your eyes and now to just envision this energy moving like the toroidus field. So it’s coming from above your head. It’s moving down through you. It’s circling back up, and it’s encompassing you. And now, for two minutes, I just played this frequency of the matrix carrier to you. And although there’s hundreds of settings in the device, I’d like to start with this one, because it kind of enlivens your whole body first, although it might not be good for entertainment on the viewers, and I do want to try to Give Tony some silence to just feel into the energy. Really imagining that your entire matrix is coherent and blanketed under one unified field of harmony. Where you’re safe and protected, and where you can take a deep, slow breath into your belly. Let letting go of the fear and the need to survive, and now we’re moving into your lungs, just bringing your attention to those places, those indents between your shoulder and your chest muscles, and breathing in healing light, vital new energy entering the body, radiating down the meridian in the Yin side of the front of your arm, the soft side of the underarm, through the elbow, this breath and this light coming down the forearm and out of your thumb, and with each breath, new vital light circulating your entire body, with new energy for your nervous system to draw on as it calms itself now, you have the energy now to heal. As your lungs know what was safe to take in and what needed to let go as you purify your mind your body, and next we move into your kidneys, located in the back of your body, just below your ribs, and with each breath we take now, we’re not only preserving but restoring the Jing, the universal ancestral energy that was given to us. The energy that we can use to heal our body, to calm our adrenals and to let go of any fear because you’re safe in this moment, you’re supported, you’re loved. And it’s not just me and your wife, but it’s all the viewers and everybody now watching, regardless of if they watch now or in the future, because time doesn’t matter. We’re all sending love and light to you. We’re all healing you continue to see this healing light glowing bright in your kidneys, where we’re storing energy that we need for our future. And in a moment, we’re moving to our spleen, and the spleen is on your left side, tucked in your lower ribs and abdomen, and now we’re sending healing, love and light to the spleen. And the spleen is more than an organ. It’s part the endocrine system, and it’s big and it’s powerful, has strong energy, and it helps you to metabolize not just nutrients but experiences, to metabolize the events that have already happened and might happen still in the future, and to build our immune system and our resiliency continuing to breathe into This plane. Letting go of worry and pain. Always remembering to breathe deep, to continue to bring the oxygen to our lungs that feeds the vitality and energy to the rest of our body. It’s clean and pure and healing light. And as we continue to breathe into this area, we begin to expand our awareness, not just to the spleen, but to the entire abdomen. And we know that. Difference by our diaphragm flattening down on our inhalation to massage our lower organs. This is a part of our body that isn’t well protected, but it’s safe now fueled by the diaphragms gentle movements and the power and vitality of the Lungs. Lungs as a protective layer around the entire abdomen, protected and shielded. You can let go of any holding, any tightness to all those primal feelings of fear and worry and survival. Because you’re safe breathing here. In the final frequency is that of the liberator. This allows us to let go of the gripping in our mind, as we liberate it to find creative solutions for our problem, we liberate the subconscious. So in the future, when we sleep and we dream and we heal and we wake, every time, we’ll have a new idea and solution to how to heal our body and move forward, liberated from the struggle and the holding and gripping and I’ll take one final moment to send Healing frequencies to Tony so that he can walk forward in the rest of his Day and the rest of his life without the pain. That’s it. Your program is run. Can open your eyes and come back. Great. Well,

 

Manon Bolliger  1:08:48

like a lot of that was very helpful for me too.

 

Tony  1:08:53

Wait, this is my healing.

 

Manon Bolliger  1:08:54

No, I’m sorry. I’m I’m a bit connected to you. Well, you have a very nice voice. Yeah, I was doing that. Yeah, that’s great.

 

Tony  1:09:12

Oh yeah, it’s been, it’s been a rough morning and but I was certainly able to Oh be still in that session there. Yeah, one of the funny things with this, I think Manon mentioned it before, but when we talk about it gets worse for me. You know, it’s so early on, when we were going through that chart, it was like, Oh, my God, it’s just and it seems weird, because I tend to think if somebody else told me that I’d be, oh, it’s all in your mind, you know. But believe me, this is, really is very painful. But how it can come and go like that, I find that quite extraordinary as well. You know? It feels. Like it should be there that whole time or or not there at all. But that’s not the case, obviously.

 

Dayna Wylder  1:10:09

Well, it just kind of shows the the power of our mind and what we focus on. And it is always one of the things when I when I do the scans with people, that I always fear, that sometimes, when you show people these things, that they might have something else to worry about. But you know, hopefully, what happens that even in that momentary discomfort of finding some of the possible solutions and root causes, is that going forward, you don’t have to think about the pain anymore, because maybe you can find a way to the other side.

 

Manon Bolliger  1:10:44

Yeah. What is the pain now?

 

Tony  1:10:49

A number, or it’s about seven or eight. I think, yeah, okay. It kind of comes and goes, yeah, yeah. I’m not, I must say I’m not really a worrier, you know, stuff like that doesn’t really kind of concern me. It’s never been my forte to be worried, really, but I’d like to get rid of the pain is the main thing.

 

Manon Bolliger  1:11:17

But it did show up spleen as worry, right, in your emotional thing, but you know, maybe that is more subconscious in your case, yeah, maybe to do with the past, you know, because it’s he’s not typically a worrier at all, right, which is interesting. But I do think, given everything we’ve heard here, it does feel like it’s, it’s an old, an old experience, you know? Yeah, I don’t know that’s what I’m feeling hearing, yeah?

 

Dayna Wylder  1:11:56

Well, I mean, it doesn’t always just have to be, right. Now, some of these things can be from childhood, they can be from other parts of your life. And you know, it’s, I think a lot of it does happen in early years, though, because it’s when we live in theta wave, and we tend to be pretty much being in hypnosis during all those years of our life, right? Because when we are trying to get people into deep meditation or into hypnosis. You’re trying to put them in theta wave. And when you’re under seven, that’s where we live all the time. So really, all the things that happen to us at that time in our life are getting stored in our memory, and we’re not really aware of them. And you know it. So it’s one thing to unconsciously make a decision not to be a worrier, although I would, I would even suggest that, you know, once you have pain all the time, it’s like they say with anxiety. Sometimes that people have anxiety, it’s the fear of the anxiety attack that gives them the anxiety, you know, and it’s the same thing here, where maybe the the that you’re worried about becoming in pain gives you something to worry about. So you you get kind of stuck in, in that, that loop,

 

Tony  1:13:04

yeah, that’s possible. I don’t like the scenario, but it’s possible. Yeah.

 

Manon Bolliger  1:13:15

Okay, all right, so your suggestion now would be to take a, like, a sip of water, like just once a day, or when the pain comes up as a reminder, like,

 

Dayna Wylder  1:13:33

oh yeah. So generally, with the infoceutical products, we do 15 drops a day, and then I mean, but in this case, because you guys just, you don’t have it in a drop, or it’s just water. Dropper. It’s just water, but, yeah, or you could just have, like, you know, a tablespoon of it, say, or something. You just take some out. Because the thing, when they’ve just done a lot of studies, and it was very interesting, actually, University of California, San Diego, one of their doctor, doctor, Himal Patel, I want to say his name is. He tried to disprove emphasesuticals, and he tried to say that it was BS. And they did studies, and they actually proved that they work in effort to disprove them. Yeah, and when they were doing it, they they found, very much like homeopathy, that the dilution didn’t matter. So with the Intraceuticals, you know, whether you took a small amount or whether you took a large amount. It was the what was imprinted in it that mattered, not the dosage. Yeah, so, I mean, that’s what I’m saying there. I don’t know how big your glass of water is, but you could, and you know, you could spread it out two times a day too, if you feel or take it like most infoceuticals, I recommend people take in the morning, unless they’re taking ones that are specifically for, like chill or something. That’s better at nighttime. But I’m not sure that infoceuticals, they’re not an immediate response where you take it and it’s boom it in that moment. So just the consistency of taking it, even just every morning over time, is just reminding your body. Because, you know, one session we do right now. I mean, you might just. Be calm from the session now, but it I don’t, I don’t even claim to say that one energy session is heals somebody, because, just like anything, we have to practice it and do it over and over. But taking the Intraceuticals every day, what, and what you’ve done right now with the water, and you know, the infeceuticals actually come with like they already were filtered in ozone in them and the minerals in them. But one of the interesting things they found about, and I know if you’ve been aware of the studies like Emmanuel Moto and other people that have studied the frequency and water, is that it didn’t really matter so much the quality of the water as it did the emotion and intention put behind it, yeah, yeah, right. So even when they thought positive thoughts are played nice music to dirty water, it’s still made a beautiful crystal, right? So, you know? And then that’s why I think a lot of these things, it’s, you know, yeah, it’s nice to have the filter clean water and to have the product, but the intention matters a lot, too.

 

Manon Bolliger  1:16:00

I Okay, well, so what, what will I guess like? So if, if Tony was following up with you, like, just so people know, what would be like, he would do this, and then what would be your recommended treatment protocol, typically.

 

Dayna Wylder  1:16:21

So if I was dealing with somebody who’s only just doing the bio resonance scan, a follow up right now would be I send you the reports, and then I generally give like recommendations. We talked about some of the things with Tony today, like tracing the lung meridian, right? We could also be doing the opposite one, which would be the large intestine meridian, which is now coming up the finger on the outside of the arm, up the neck and around the ear, which is where you were feeling these pains, which is, you know, telling to me that the place where you’re feeling it is the two places where the meridians run that showed up on your scan. So I would say, then, you know, pressing into those acupuncture points and tracing the meridians would bring energy and intention there and do that as many times a day as you want, so as often as you remember to do it. You can’t overdo that, right? And and then I generally follow up. I would scan people once a month for at least three months to just see if the products they need and the frequencies they need change, because some things change immediately, you know, like, if you just have a cold or a flu, you can get over that pretty quick. But, you know, once you have things that have been going on for years, you know, you need sustained effort, right?

 

Manon Bolliger  1:17:30

Sure, it makes sense, okay, well, and then maybe at one point we could do a follow up for the, you know, the audience that’s watching, and and then discuss what, what happened? If you’re up for that, yeah,

 

Dayna Wylder  1:17:48

no, I’d love to do that, because one of the things that this software has the ability to do is also create a tracking progress, so you could see, like, month after month, when you scan the colors of all of the things and how it’s either gotten better changed, and because sometimes you’ll actually see that as you clear up some older issues. Are the not What do you say older ones, the ones the body’s looking for first, because your body always tells you what it needs immediately. But there’s always layers to things. So as you kind of deal with some of those top layer things, sometimes you get deeper and you realize that it was actually a bigger issue than the first one. You thought it was

 

Manon Bolliger  1:18:24

right, right? And maybe he’s done all that work over the years. And this is the final one. I would like to think it was more like that after 20 years. You know, sometimes it’s

 

Dayna Wylder  1:18:37

always a journey. Like our bodies, they don’t stay, they don’t stay still, right? Our body is constantly dissolving and reforming every second as we age, and it’s so dynamic. It’s, it’s, it’s beautiful, but complicated, yes, yes.

 

Manon Bolliger  1:18:54

And yet healing could be, can be easy, right? So, you know, it’s very interesting anyway. Thank you so much for your time.

 

Dayna Wylder  1:19:03

Yeah, I hope that you guys got some insight out of that. And yeah,

 

Manon Bolliger  1:19:07

definitely, yeah. Okay, well, thank you.

 

Dayna Wylder  1:19:11

Yeah. Thank you so much. Bye.

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