How to Use Breathwork for Improved Health with Lee Davy on The Healers Café with Manon Bolliger

In this episode of The Healers Café, Manon Bolliger (Deregistered naturopathic physician with 30 years of experience in health), talks with Lee Davy Creator 5D Breathwork, Super Connector..

Highlights from today’s episode include:

Lee Davy 07:02

Yeah, I mean, for me, like, what was coming through is, and I don’t know, I don’t know why I think there’s a there’s a misconception for maybe people starting out of like, oh, this is going to be too painful. Or it’s, you know, I can’t do this, or I can’t revisit that, or information me, it’s just like with each…with each layer that comes up with each level of awareness, or layer of healing, it’s like, there’s just more freedom, it doesn’t get harder, it gets easier. Now, sometimes it goes a little bit deeper, and might feel a little bit more painful. But it’s for like, a shorter space of time. And that on, or at least for me, I know that on the other side of it, is more freedom, right, and more of who I truly am.

Lee Davy

It’s another…there’s another layer of, and there’s always more layers, almost like the layers of an onion, of feeling of awareness of connection of wholeness. of experiencing love, you know. So, it’s like, just to have that perspective and move through those layers and realize that, oh, if I am going through something perceived difficult, or an obstacle or are less than optimal, it’s just an opportunity. Dressed up in a little bit of work clothes. And when I get through it, there’s more freedom, there’s more, there’s more of who I truly am, you know, that divine aspect of who I truly am, you know, beyond the illusion that I get to embody, that I get to bring to the table.

Lee Davy

If we’re designed to breathe in our own co2, we’d probably look quite a bit different than we do. And so, that’s why I love the breath because just having an understanding that by lowering our co2 levels and taking in deep, full, intentional breaths, how it actually liberates stored energy from the cells and it lowers inflammation, and by practicing different holds, we’re actually allowing the cells and the proteins to recycle and regenerate and repair. Like, and that’s just that’s just the tip of the iceberg of what’s happening physiologically when we’re doing the these breathing sessions you mentioned the mind and the conscious mind, the thinking mind shuts down and you come into a peace and a more coherent brainwave state and the body gets flooded with all kinds of beautiful virus fighting chemistry and feel good hormones and endorphins.

 

ABOUT LEE DAVY

Lee is an inspirational author, creator, speaker, retreat host, breathwork specialist and leader in global health. Lee has worked with clients one on one and with groups all over the world for more than 20 years.  He is the co-founder of Connected Community, co-steward of the Unified Alliance, and co-owner of Imiloa Institute. Leveraging a life-long quest for self-discovery and personal growth, he has spent over three decades gathering tools and learning from leaders, shamans, tribes, keepers of the origin, medicines, sciences, the quantum realm, mother Earth and masters of meditation, movement, healing modalities, breathwork, energetics, stillness, and other forms of self-mastery.  Lee shares his voice, story, journey, passion and compassion to support others in their journeys – should they ask for assistance – to fully understand and embrace their highest selves – beyond all illusion.

Core purpose/passion: I’m a super connector that desires nothing more than to bring the pieces of the ‘new’ Earth puzzle together that each individual has. As a bridge. A guide.

 

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About Manon Bolliger

As a recently De-Registered board-certified naturopathic physician & in practice since 1992, I’ve seen an average of 150 patients per week and have helped people ranging from rural farmers in Nova Scotia to stressed out CEOs in Toronto to tri-athletes here in Vancouver.

My resolve to educate, empower and engage people to take charge of their own health is evident in my best-selling books:  ‘What Patients Don’t Say if Doctors Don’t Ask: The Mindful Patient-Doctor Relationship’ and ‘A Healer in Every Household: Simple Solutions for Stress’.  I also teach BowenFirst™ Therapy through Bowen College and hold transformational workshops to achieve these goals.

So, when I share with you that LISTENING to Your body is a game changer in the healing process, I am speaking from expertise and direct experience”.

Mission: A Healer in Every Household!

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TRANSCRIPT

Welcome to the Healers Cafe. Conversations of health and healing with Manon Bolliger (Deregistered with 30 years of experience in health).

 

Manon Bolliger 00:17

So, welcome to the Healers Cafe. And today I have with me, Lee Davy. He’s an inspirational author, creator, speaker, retreat host, breathwork specialist, and leader in global health. Lee has worked with clients one on one and with groups all over the world for the past 20 years. And he’s the co-founder of Connected Community, co-steward of the United Alliance and co-owner of Immy lower Institute. So welcome. And I’m super excited to spend some time getting to know what you do. And yeah, just what…what’s there for the world to find out about? Welcome.

 

Lee Davy 01:04

Thank you so much Dr. Manon. And I really appreciate it. I’m looking forward to this discussion with you today. And yeah, seeing where it goes. We were just talking beforehand about the many possibilities of where we could take this, and I suspect we might end up all over the place. So.

 

Manon Bolliger 01:26

I mean, that’s why I called this conversations, right?

 

Lee Davy 01:29

Yeah.

 

Manon Bolliger 01:29

Literally, we don’t know, the only intention I have is that the people who are listening receive the message that they need, and that we come from complete integrity in what we share. So, I think the first question I’d like to ask you, is what got you on this path? I’ll call it a healing path. Because the work you do helps in that process, so what’s your story? What got you there?

 

Lee Davy 02:05

Yeah, you know, I feel like our, oftentimes our greatest wounding, if you want to call it that is our greatest gifting, and I don’t know, I just at a very young age around like, 13 years old, that’s the first time I remember really kind of like, asking questions of like, what is this? Who am I? Why am I here? Why do I feel so alone? So alien, you know, and that, I guess, those feelings of aloneness of unworthiness. That began my personal journey, my personal search. And, you know, it’s led me into the physical, the metaphysical and to the mind and to the medicine worlds, breathwork, meditation, you know, you name it, I’ve probably, at least tried it. And, you know some years ago, probably a good 10-12 years ago, I was able to, oh, wow, like, this has been my journey. And, it was, so that A, I could put together the pieces of the puzzle of myself, of who I truly am and what I’m truly capable of, and I’m still working on that puzzle, because I think it’s an infinite game that we’re playing, you know, to remember who we truly are, the highest version of us beyond all …

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illusion. So, I think that that journey continues, but, you know, from the state of consciousness that I’m at now compared to so long ago, it’s like, oh, okay, like, this has been a journey all along to, to, you know, gather these tools, these pieces so that you know, now I’m able to share them, for others if they so choose to want to go down that same kind of path of discovery, self-discovery. And if they don’t then I just continue to work on myself and you know, continue to expand into my infinite nature as quickly as possible but it doesn’t seem fast enough sometimes.

 

Manon Bolliger 04:48

It’s really interesting what you say because I just was listening to a podcast yesterday that was talking about this free floating anxiety that people have and mass formation, which is sort of a result of that initial, you know, angst about the world, angst about, you know, everything and a bit of discontent and all of that. And I was thinking, what is it that changes? Some people will fixate on a solution, I’ll be it as small as it is, it does take care of the emotional issues on the surface level, but others will go on this big life pursuit, going deeper, finding out more exploring, you know, the nature of our, you know, of our consciousness. It’s like, it’s almost like there’s, there’s a choice, there’s always a choice, you know, on some level, right? But what, because the same feelings could really, there’s a fork on the road, right? And at what point do you decide that the road…because when you go through all the different therapies, different Breathworks different understanding of reality, it’s challenging, it’s not like, oh, that was easy. Some of this, these realizations are, it can be extremely emotionally taxing. And yet, some people, that’s what the truth is, what thereafter, you know, and other people, maybe that’s what it is, the other people, it’s more that it gives us an emotional cushion of okay. I don’t have to go down anymore. Figuring out what this underlining anxiety and, you know, discomfort with myself, the world, whatever, you know, is about, I don’t know, what to do you relate to what I’m saying?

 

Lee Davy 07:02

Yeah, I mean, for me, like, what was coming through is, and I don’t know, I don’t know why I think there’s a there’s a misconception for maybe people starting out of like, oh, this is going to be too painful. Or it’s, you know, I can’t do this, or I can’t revisit that, or information me, it’s just like with each…with each layer that comes up with each level of awareness, or layer of healing, it’s like, there’s just more freedom, it doesn’t get harder, it gets easier. Now, sometimes it goes a little bit deeper, and might feel a little bit more painful. But it’s for like, a shorter space of time. And that on, or at least for me, I know that on the other side of it, is more freedom, right, and more of who I truly am. So, it’s like, you know, when those…when those difficulties are those wounds or traumas or, you know, even I even look at sickness as a clearing, you know, as a biological upgrade. And I actually, I just went through one, like, on Sunday, went to bed, like, had a great day, felt great the entire day on Sunday, went to bed, woke up the next day and couldn’t move. Like, literally felt like, I’d been hit by a truck. And like, super the day went on, and that night, was probably one of the most painful nights of my life, like, severe body aches and pains and headaches and just like, No real congestion in the lungs or anything. So, I don’t, I don’t know if it was, you know, the thing that everybody says is the thing. Or not, I don’t subscribe to it, I won’t get a test ever. Because they’re designed to be false positives, which is going to perpetuate this, you know, the more of us they get tested, and it’s the thing no matter if it’s the thing or not, then you know, it’s just gonna continue to keep this problem going. So, I don’t even go down that road. And I just look at it as a as a biological upgrade. I go through my own like meditative mindfulness, like, focus mantras on how I’m already healed and healthy. And, you know, that was, I’d say, a day and a half to two days after, you know, the height of it. It’s gone, you know, so for me, everything’s a biological upgrade. It’s another…there’s another layer of, and there’s always more layers, almost like the layers of an onion, of feeling of awareness of connection of wholeness. of experiencing love, you know. So, it’s like, just to have that perspective and move through those layers and realize that, oh, if I am going through something perceived difficult, or an obstacle or are less than optimal, it’s just an opportunity. Dressed up in a little bit of work clothes. And when I get through it, there’s more freedom, there’s more, there’s more of who I truly am, you know, that divine aspect of who I truly am, you know, beyond the illusion that I get to embody, that I get to bring to the table.

 

Commercial Break 10:43

Yeah, I think it’s interesting, when I hear you saying that, I’m very attached to if I have attachments, it’s to freedom. But it’s, but it’s freedom that is self-generated, right? It really is about, like, you know, people say, removing the layers, or the healing, I’ve had all kinds of, I’ve attracted all kinds of illnesses, I think for the sake of experiencing what I’m talking about, and also being able to help people. But I even had stage four cancer, which is like, oh, you know, like, that’s, that was a bit of a doozy. You know, like, wow, you know, how did I end up with that, but I think when I observe the process of going through that, it’s not resisting it, it’s really allowing and being in connection with literally every cell in your body. And, the end result was a sense of freedom, not free of disease, but internally freer as a person. Whereas I was thinking, those who fall into this is that Belgium psychologist or psychiatrist, which was fascinating, I can’t remember his name now. But, you know, he said, about a third of the people fall into the sort of the hypnosis, it’s like, it’s almost like a quick fix solution. It’s the bandage to the emotional unrest. So that an authority figure, which is typically how it happens, has the solution. And then it’s like, ah, now we don’t have to take responsibility for our own journey in this world. And so, it’s really like safety versus freedom on some level, you know, and we can create both. Like, it’s just it’s interesting to watch that. So, talk about creating, what are you creating now? Like, you’re into loom, right? I said, what are you talking about creating? What are you creating right now what’s happening in your world and you’re Canadian?

 

Lee Davy 13:01

I am, I am Canadian, I was born and raised, just outside of Brockville, Ontario, about 45 minutes from Ottawa. I spent over a decade almost 15 years in Toronto, I had a gym there for a number of years and now I’ve been gone for the last eight, almost eight years, up until the thing shut the world down. I was traveling, connecting to different communities, organizations, solution areas you know and then over the last year I’ve been in loom where it seems to be a meeting grounds for some of the most brilliant minds and in you know, all different areas, whether it’s regeneration, or crypto or health and consciousness or you know, you name it. Those people are here and so for me, I’ve been focused on two areas, three areas specifically so I still teach breathwork and offer like workshops and retreats around that, you know, meditation, movement, neuroscience, kind of everything that I learned for myself, that’s, that’s kind of what I offer. Now. The other aspect that I’m super passionate about is the freedom the sovereignty aspect, and I’ve started to go through my own individual process of literally unplugging from the system. And, you know, we’re just very, very briefly and quickly we are indoctrinated. Literally coerced pulled out of the private system as a living soul having dominion of and over the land, under common law into the private, or sorry, public, corporate personhood, also known as a corporate fiction under contract or admiralty, legalese, it’s not even law, it’s legalese or color of law. And this whole system that we’ve been duped into playing is a jurisdiction that is…doesn’t hold a candle to the common law jurisdiction. But because we’ve been coerced into this larger jurisdiction, we have to play by those rules and you know, as such, all the mandates, all the statutes, all this legalese stuff that is being passed and enforced on us right now, we have to abide by but when we unplug from all this, and we rescind our birth certificate, and we rescind our corporate ID and we come back under common law, as natural living souls. We can travel freely, we can live freely, we can let go of taxation, we can own our lands out right. You know, there’s all this stuff that that I’m going through this process individually and then have an aim to, to create to co create this, like a doctrine of sovereignty. And what I’ve done with it is basically pulled in a lot of different resources from different organizations that I’ve come across, that have some really good content. But maybe still, from a perspective of, you know, sort of, for example, there’s one called the Kingdom of David. And it’s this new king laying claim to the land and his people and saying a lot of the right things like it’s for the people, and it’s about love and peace, and he’s got a proclamation of peace and all this stuff. And yet, I’m thinking, do we really need another king? Like, aren’t we all kings and queens? And isn’t the kingdom, the kingdom of the earth? So, I’ve started to revise, you know, those documents and pull these other ones in from that perspective of, hey, if we’re all sovereigns, and if we’re all, you know, kings and queens of, of the kingdom of the Earth, what would that look like? And, you know, really trying to weave in the common law aspects to that, and, you know, there’s writs of habeas corpus and pro initio and non-consent, and, you know, all of these components that, you know, I feel like, if, and I’m, I’m by no means a lawyer, so I’m doing this from my perspective, to then have, you know, the proper people with the proper understanding, to fully look at this and refine it and redefine it and then put it out to a number of different groups that I’m affiliated with, have everybody you know, come to a consensus on it, really refine it again, and then ratified it and make this thing, something that not only individuals, but autonomous organizations can be a part of, and even for us to create new ecclesiastical nations.

 

Commercial Break 18:45

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Lee Davy 19:49

Oh, all of that. And then the kind of the last piece is really connecting with you know, I created an organization called the Unified Alliance, and I’m starting to work with another group called the Open World Alliance, who’s doing some very similar things. And there, there are other groups, you know, you mentioned this, from the top that there’s so many groups doing working on the same thing. So we’re trying to figure out, okay, like, how can we work together, not overlap, still bring our piece of the puzzle, you know, to the table, and then do that with and for all the other solutions, all the other groups in every sector, every sub sector of society so that we have all the pieces we are truly working together, we can clarify the picture of the puzzle that we all have pieces to

 

Manon Bolliger 20:45

Mm hmm. Yeah, no, I’m just starting this whole process myself. You sound like you’re gotten much deeper already. But I’m amazed at exactly how it’s a discussion for so many people. And, you know, in here in British Columbia, it’s very active on that level, saying, oh, you know, we don’t need that many people to actually say that, first of all, the Constitution isn’t really a valid piece of paper, apparently. And, you know, I don’t know how to verify that.

 

Lee Davy 21:20

Got, I’ve got verification.

 

Manon Bolliger 21:24

So, I’ve heard First Nations say that, they can verify that it’s not that it was never signed that as provinces we are not part of the Federation. And that, you know, so there’s so much like, oh, wow, you know, we’re looking so small to think we have to overthrow what is, what we’re really, if we create what is needed, with all the people who are thinking the same, there’s nothing to really overthrow, and, you know, we are, I believe we are the majority, at least in BC, it feels that way. And, you know, I don’t like waking up, I feel like that’s such a…type of thing. It’s like, you are where you’re at, and when you notice that there’s something else you can participate in that, you know, maybe makes more sense to your core values. I mean, I think I’m, I’m super excited for the future. And, and I’m wondering whether the creative space to do really do all that work, is under the duress of the current situation in Canada.

 

Lee Davy 22:46

Well, I mean, that’s why I left you know. I’m like, I can fight for freedom. I don’t actually want to use the word fight, I can stand for freedom and unification while still being free. I don’t need to be locked down to and for freedom. So, I’m like, I’m gonna I’m gonna get out where I don’t have to worry about, you know, all that stuff. And I can focus on, you know, like you said earlier, like, focus on the solution. I know, the problems there. I don’t have to be inundated and confronted by it every single day.

 

Manon Bolliger 23:26

Right. It does wear on you, you know, even if you’re, you know, I’m a fairly independent person, but it’s I you know, I had already deregistered, which was, so it’s not well, I was suspended, because I, from my board, because I recommended some prevention for this thing that we can’t talk about. And, the prevention is like, very basic stuff, like vitamin D, something called Reboot, which is a way of getting your body to be optimized, because we all know that when we are healthy, and we feel optimized, and whether it’s breath work, or whether doesn’t matter when we’re good we are at the strongest to deal with anything that we’re experiencing and you know, so I felt that as a profession we would be, we would be the leaders of this. It was our moment to step in and say, you know, that’s enough for fixing diseases. Let’s prevent and let’s anyway…instead, I got a slap on the wrist. And then I wrote an article just recently that got published in the local paper. And again, it was not…it was labeled as anti-vaccine. And it wasn’t at all anti vaccine, it was about not judging people and realizing that such a thing as immunity comes different ways. And you know, it was all backed up with true science anyway, and that was like the final straw. And so, it’s like, wow, you know, it really

 

Lee Davy 25:08

The Hippocratic Oath, or something that?

 

Manon Bolliger 25:15

Well, it’s like, when you’re asked to go against it, it’s not no longer ethical. So, I had, I couldn’t, I mean, I can’t, I’m a person of integrity, I cannot do something that doesn’t, that isn’t right point final. And, you know, I’m not a troublemaker, but I’m like, I am not going to be trotted upon and you know, do keep a license at all costs. So, I decided that’s what got me looking into natural law. And it’s like, I want to be deregulated, not just delicensed, I really want to be out of this system entirely. And what I noticed is that so many people looking for services, they didn’t care if you’re regulated or not regulated, or I mean, they want you to be educated in what it is that you’re doing. But it’s everyone’s seeing through. It’s like, it’s so it was so beautiful to notice, you know, and I was like, well, here’s another liberation after 30 years of doing one thing, you know, and realizing that there’s so much more without the constraints, and it doesn’t even mean that I will be practicing. That’s not my, you know, it’s not really where I’m at right now in my life, but it’s like, we don’t need all these institutions. It seems so clear to me anyway. So, it’s funny that talking, when we started this, we were talking about that. So how…so I do want you to say a few things about breathwork. Because I find that really interesting as well. But I feel like we have so many things to talk about, I don’t know where to go. Yeah, I’ll leave it to you what I’m thinking breathwork really helps people to stay connected to themselves, and to, you know, to be more grounded. And I think a lot of what’s happening here is it can make you very ungrounded. Do you have a recommendation or type of breath work that, or how do you work that way? What do you tell people?

 

Lee Davy 27:43

Yeah, I mean, so. I mean, first of all, like to anybody viewing if you don’t understand the physiology of the breath, and actually you can, you could come to one of my classes or, you know, even just go online, but you know, if we were designed to breathe in our own carbon dioxide, we probably would, you know, we would have been doing that from birth. So, just, my dad always used to say, what they say about common sense, it’s not so common. And, you know, and that’s not to put anybody down, who’s wearing the masks or whatever. But it’s like, because I know that, that the, the fear and the confusion is what has, you know, perpetrated this whole thing, you know, people are so confused, and so fearful that they don’t know what to think. And I’m not sure which come, which comes first, the fear of the confusion, but the combination of the two, it’s not a good mix. And so, you know, you’re walking around with these things on and getting jab two and three and four and 10 times and, first of all, question, where’s it, where’s it going to end if you don’t stand up and stop it? And secondly, you know, just think about the way that we’re designed. If we’re designed to breathe in our own co2, we’d probably look quite a bit different than we do. And so, that’s why I love the breath because just having an understanding that by lowering our co2 levels and taking in deep, full, intentional breaths, how it actually liberates stored energy from the cells and it lowers inflammation, and by practicing different holds, we’re actually allowing the cells and the proteins to recycle and regenerate and repair. Like, and that’s just that’s just the tip of the iceberg of what’s happening physiologically when we’re doing the these breathing sessions you mentioned the mind and the conscious mind, the thinking mind shuts down and you come into a peace and a more coherent brainwave state and the body gets flooded with all kinds of beautiful virus fighting chemistry and feel good hormones and endorphins. And, you know, we really have the pharmacy. And I mean, that’s why we’ve lived as long as we have. Because our body naturally fights off virus and disease so, and breath, intentional breath, deep breathing, is one of the most powerful tools that we have. And now we’re being told to not do that, like, common sense, people, we need to get back to common sense. And if it feels like it’s not, right, it’s probably not. In terms of the method, I’ve actually created my own called Five D Breathwork. And so it’s literally just playing with the breath, right, and, you know, varying the styles, whether it’s in through the nose, and out through the mouth, or in through the mouth and out through the nose, or he, ha ha, like, there’s, there’s a, probably about 13 different variations that I’ll use, and incorporate, but the commonality is the cyclical nature of the breath. And that, in and of itself is lowering our carbon dioxide levels and increasing our oxygen saturation. If we did nothing else that’s creating an alkaline oxygen rich environment. Which disease can’t live in that type of environment? It just can’t.

 

Manon Bolliger 31:50

No, I mean, it’s fundamental. And I think, you know, like, like, I’m just going to put words in your mouth, but I think they’re the same words, you know, to look after ourselves is actually quite simple. We are already so perfectly made, you know, and we complicate things buy false narratives, false science, like, you know, paid science and all kinds of things. It’s, yeah, we’ve created a complicated world. And it’s not what you need to do to thrive or be happy or feel free, you know, so.

 

Lee Davy 32:25

No, not at all. I don’t know. I mean, the, and I mean, you come from that system, and I, you know, I don’t really feel bad about saying this, but I mean, yes, if somebody is, like, super, super sick, or has a broken leg, or you know, something like that. Western medicine amazing love it, thank you. But otherwise, it’s not,,,it’s not health. It’s sickness. It’s, it’s,

 

Manon Bolliger 32:59

It’s disease management.

 

Lee Davy 33:00

That’s it? Yeah. Yeah. I love that it’s disease management, right. And, and so what would happen if every one of you got off your ass and ate better and drank structured water and changed your focus and changed your mindset and turned off the TV and got up and did some movements. It’s all here for us, but we can’t be passive about it. Right? And even, going through my process the other night and moving beyond that physiological upgrade. It’s like, I was telling friends, like, you know, that are still had started kind of before me, and we’re still a day or two after me and through going through the healing process. And I’m like, what do you like, what are you doing when you’re in it? Like, oh, like, you know, the, their mind, they’re passive. They’re bystanders to whatever, you know, let’s just say for argument’s sake, it was a virus, right? And I’m gonna, I’m gonna say it was the common cold if it was a virus, because that somehow has disappeared. But so, the common cold as a virus, if I’m passive to it, it’s going to run its course and maybe it takes a week. Whereas if I’m not passive, and I’m actually employing the constructs of the mind to focus on already being healed and already feeling better and already…you know, when I focus on the energy centers and like there’s all kinds of stuff that I focus on, continuously, that A takes my focus away from the pain, but B is put it on the solution. Results, instead of it taking a week. It takes a day or two days. So, and it’s kind of like that with prevention. It’s like you can just be a bystander in your life and just have the days pass and then yeah, sickness is gonna come and you’re probably going to die early. I’d have to resort to the sickness would you call it the…

 

Manon Bolliger 35:22

Disease management.

 

Lee Davy 35:23

Management, right system or you cannot be passive you can imply employ the mind, make the tools work for you go into prevention feel so much better in the process, take control of your life and your health and not have to rely on that, that preventative or that…

 

Manon Bolliger 35:47

Management system. It’s really, you know, if you think it’s managing, right, that’s the thing. We’re not even allowed to use the word cure. If you think about it, like, it’s a funny thing, right? Anyway, but our time is up, and I’d rather leave everyone on that. The last thing you said, so I just wanted to thank you for participating in this conversation.

 

Lee Davy 36:12

Thank you so much as it was, my honor, I really appreciate it and I really, really want to commend you for standing in integrity and not letting them you know, push you around and yeah, just keep you boxed into something that doesn’t align with your true values and if more of that system or in alignment with you and stood for what you stood for. This thing would be over and will be over.

 

Manon Bolliger 36:53

Well, it’s coming. Alright, thank you so much.

 

Lee Davy 37:02

Thank you.

 

Ending  33:08

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* De-Registered, revoked & retired naturopathic physician, after 30 years of practice in healthcare. Now resourceful & resolved to share with you all the tools to take care of your health & vitality!