childhood a difficult one?

Jenna Brocious  06:28

Yes, I was raised by a single mother who was an alcoholic and had a revolving door of men. So, my life was constantly moving and changing. I really didn’t have a lot of safety or consistency in my childhood, so that’s something I seeked as an adult, and with my husband, who is the most consistent, loyal person I’ve ever met, and couldn’t have picked a better partner for me because that’s truly what I needed to feel grounded and safe as an adult.

Manon Bolliger  06:54

Yeah, it’s unusual that it goes that you know. Usually, you you kind of repeat the pattern.

Jenna Brocious  07:02

I wrote a whole book about not repeating the patterns that I had been raised in. My grandmother was a single mother,

Manon Bolliger  07:09

so

Jenna Brocious  07:10

just like I had to break these patterns for my son, so that my son has an opportunity to have a bigger and better loving life.

Manon Bolliger  07:17

So, so what? What? I mean, it sounds easy. Sure, we’ll break a pattern. You know, you’re aware of it. You don’t want to do it, but how did you break it? How did it really manifest in you to be able to break that pattern?

Jenna Brocious  07:35

I think just making different choices. I saw my mother. I say my mother taught me everything not to do in life, and I enjoy the contrast in that. But she really taught me everything not to do in life, and I saw a lot of things as a child that I was like, “That isn’t okay. That’s not how that should be. And so it was really just learning how to like become independent on my own, be able to take care of myself, be able to make rational decisions without just flying off the handle and being reactive. I was raised by a lot of reactive people, and so, and I also still to this day am working on that as well. But it was just seeing all the things that I knew weren’t okay. I had to change them for myself, and somehow by the grace of God, I have changed it. I’ve been married for 12 years now, and I have a very sweet husband that deals with a lot.

Manon Bolliger  08:30

Well, you know, I think people choose each other, right? At some level of consciousness, yeah. So there’s got to be something in it for him, as a growth factor too. You know, it’s not um, it’s not just a one way. It never is.

Jenna Brocious  08:49

No, and I’m definitely a very strong, independent woman, and he is a people pleaser. So we have worked on each other for sure. So I agree with you. It goes both ways.

Manon Bolliger  09:00

Yeah, yeah. So that’s a that’s interesting that you are not the the people pleaser.

Jenna Brocious  09:08

You know what? I realized in my early 20s that I was a people pleaser because I never wanted to go home because my home environment was so erratic that I would anything to stay at a friend’s house. So I would clean the house. I would do anything to not go home. So I have realized that being a people pleaser does not serve us. And my favorite, no. And I’m trying to teach my husband that

Manon Bolliger  09:33

one. Oh, okay, okay. So you went through it basically. Yeah,

Jenna Brocious  09:38

to acknowledge it.

Manon Bolliger  09:39

So you you mentioned at the beginning that you know there were ups and there were downs and there’s multitude of paths. Do you want to sort of take us through to when the path kind of led to your your vision of you know. Like there’s healing, and then suddenly, it’s like you are part of the the healers in in a sense, right? You’re able to bring that out so that other people get helped.

Jenna Brocious  10:14

Yeah, God laid it on my heart to write a book about my childhood, and I had always joked about how crazy it was. It’s a really fun story to read for somebody that didn’t have to live through it. And so I finally made the decision to write a book and really share all of the steps and all the journeys of my healing process. And even writing the book brought up all of those emotions I thought I had dealt with on the floor of my office years ago, and here I was dealing with them all over again, writing this book and realizing I only had two pictures with my dad when I was a baby because I started going through photos to try and put it all back together again, and it just reopened up all the things. But then it just gave me so much more wisdom and understanding and gratitude that I was just so blessed to be able to share that with other people because I think we all don’t open up enough, but if we were to open up more, we’d realize how much we all have in common.

Manon Bolliger  11:13

Right. Yeah, and and that part of humanity, you know, and because you say that in the end, it’s you know it’s love that connects things. Can you sort of expand from in your own kind of words what that is really about the essence of that statement?

Jenna Brocious  11:35

Well, my three were well, my words are help, heal, and spread love. And I think once I was able to help myself and heal. I was able to open up my heart so much more to more love, more love for my husband, and understanding more love for my child in a more playful, joyful way. It really just healing, and I think healing is such a personal responsibility that we all have to hold within ourselves. I had to forgive my mom, and she’s never apologized. She’ll never apologize. She’ll never admit, and that’s okay. But for my own self, I know that she is not proud of some of the things that have happened. But I accept her apology, and it was my own responsibility to move forward without ever having those conversations, and I think that’s such a big part of healing. Is our own? We have to take our own responsibility for it.

Manon Bolliger  12:30

Yeah. Well, I mean, the end. It’s it’s we’re the ones who suffer if we don’t, right? So, yeah. I mean, so for sure. But but there’s also like self love, right? Because in the in the terms of your relationship at the time with your mom, your self love would have been affected, right?

Jenna Brocious  12:56

Yes, I will say I have to admit I’ve always had God in my life. My mom used to take me to church and drop me off on my own, and I would be a little girl and go to church on Sunday by myself. So it’s such a funny, but so I think I’ve always had that like strength in His presence that my self worth really never suffered, which I find so interesting as a grown adult now and looking back on it, because I knew I was worthy, even though my surroundings did not show that.

Manon Bolliger  13:26

Interesting. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because that’s that’s an obvious step that many people need to take, right? Is that you know? But you went straight to more loving to your husband, more loving to your son, and I was saying, but very interesting. Yeah. So tell us a little bit about the these prayer cards and what is it? What is praying in your mind?

Jenna Brocious  13:56

Well, I struggled during COVID because I felt like some of the prayers I were getting were like so doomsday, and the words were such a negative connotation, and I really didn’t like that. And so I just started writing positive prayers that had more uplifting words, better, more powerful statements, and a positive reflection. And so I just thought if I could make one person smile, or make them not feel alone, or elevate them to have a better mindset, then I, then I was doing my job. I was doing my work. That was from my heart, and that was me spreading love on a different level in a different way.

Manon Bolliger  14:37

So when you like, I mean, I can see the need for that, but so let’s say you’re Manon Bolliger here, and I want to thank you for taking actionable steps towards engaging your healing journey and helping others discover their path by watching, sharing, subscribing, and. Reviewing these podcasts, every review and share helps spread the word on these different perspectives and choices and options for healing. And to thank you, I’d like to invite you to sign up to my free seven sequence email tips on health and healing for everyday life. And you can go to healerscafe.com. tips. Thanks so much. You’re you’re writing cards for, let’s say, grandparent who’s stuck, you know, is rejected by their family because they they haven’t they decided not to take these shots or they’re not allowed to go visit them because the establishment has taken on the the belief that Fauci is the science Whatever. So, how could you? How do you pray in the in the positive way in a circumstance that you know so many people lost their loved ones without being able to say goodbye? You know, so many people died in hospitals due to protocols that were unsuitable. That’s the polite way of saying criminal. But yeah, so yeah, go ahead. Give us examples of how you transform from what what people would most likely say to to coming from a place of love and giving a positive feeling. Yeah.

Jenna Brocious  16:53

So there’s seven different prayer cards. There’s peace, love, happiness, worthiness, grief, and then travel. So there are different topics of cards, and I made them small enough that they kind of fit into your back pocket or a wallet. So if you’re feeling anxious and a little overwhelmed, it’s kind of something that you can just pull out. And it’s just five sentences. They’re very short and sweet and brief. But I just want you to like recalibrate yourself if you’re feeling that feeling. And so words carry intentions, and so I had the dictionary in front of me for weeks going over words and what did they mean because I wanted to be very intentional when I said immerse yourself in love, carry this positive vibe with you, and so here I’ll show you one of them. So this is my worthiness prayer card, and it says, “Dear God, help me find strength and love within myself. I know I am worthy of a healthy lifestyle, great love, and abundance. I am worthy of happiness. Anything I put my mind to, I can accomplish. I am a valuable person, and I am enough as I am. And I love that we can just give somebody something so sweet and little, but it also can shift that mindset if they’re having a hard time.

Manon Bolliger  18:13

Okay, so and how do you deal with the negative voice that exists in many people that says, “Well, that’s what I’m reading, but that’s just BS because I’m not worth. I’m not worthy.

Jenna Brocious  18:33

Right, that’s a hard one. I mean, we all have my. I have a mentor, and he called it the drunk monkey. Don’t let your drunk be talk to you,

Manon Bolliger  18:43

right?

Jenna Brocious  18:43

And I think that we all have that in us. It’s just, are you going to allow it to continue talking, or are we going to shift our mindset into something else? So I always suggest if we go down the drunk monkey hole, we got to pull ourselves back out, and then we just got to think of something positive. Is it the sunshine shining on your skin? Is it the breeze blowing on you? Is it the flowers that are across the street? Like, find something that can just bring you out of that little moment or that dark hole, because life isn’t always easy, and it can be really, really hard, and that’s okay. But we have to be able to pull ourselves out of it, and I hope that these cards kind of give people an opportunity to like, oh, I am worthy. Okay, let’s shift and let’s go for a walk or do something else or call a good friend. I just we got we can’t let ourselves sit there. We got to find a way to pull ourselves out, and so that was the intention behind these cards.

Manon Bolliger  19:36

Yeah, so you’re showing like, well, on some level, people know they’re worthy. On some level, I mean, the people who would buy the cards, right? Like you know, not everyone’s the train

Jenna Brocious  19:51

to train content.

Manon Bolliger  19:53

Yeah, yeah,

Jenna Brocious  19:54

yeah.

Manon Bolliger  19:55

And and so the sort of the lesson is the the the drunk thoughts. Or the what did what did he call

Jenna Brocious  20:02

them? The drunk monkey. The

Manon Bolliger  20:03

drunk monkey. Yeah, okay. Because there’s many ways of calling those thoughts, but it’s really not to pay, not to give them value, basically.

Jenna Brocious  20:14

Yeah, don’t give it attention more than we already have.

Manon Bolliger  20:16

Yeah, because in a sense they’re automatic. They’re continuous, and and as Byron Katie says, that’s their job, right? So they’re going to just keep coming, and so you can either keep paying attention and going downhill, or you choose a different path.

Jenna Brocious  20:35

Correct, and I do have to say, I feel like over time it has become easier and easier for me to have those positive thoughts, or to help out of that hole, because I just it’s it’s become like second nature for me to be like we’re not going here today. We’re gonna change the topic and move on.

Manon Bolliger  20:51

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I see it more like a chipmunk in a thing, and I’m like, oh, I’m not joining you. A little deal. Yep, yeah, we’ll go somewhere else. You know

Jenna Brocious  21:02

what I really found to help when I I have that hamster wheel going in my head if something bad happened or you know whatever it might have been. I find journaling that story in my mind out on a piece of paper really allows me to finally let go of it because then I’m not like having to remind myself of it anymore because I put it on paper and it exists somewhere, and I’m able to just move on.

Manon Bolliger  21:26

Right? Yeah, it’s interesting because I mean you’re also cementing it on one level because you’re committing to the story, and usually the stories change. You know, as we evolve and we change, we see it differently, etc. But um, but it’s true that it has a home. Then you know, it’s like, yeah, and you’re not because it’s true. We often remember details that we want to sort out, and then we find ourselves in that negative thinking pattern, right?

Jenna Brocious  21:58

Yes, 100%

Manon Bolliger  22:00

Yeah. So, what are the other subjects you have besides the worthiness, travel?

Jenna Brocious  22:08

I have a grief prayer card because let’s

Manon Bolliger  22:10

go with that one. I was going to say that

Jenna Brocious  22:13

a lot of loss that was happening, and I know it can be hard to have the words to pray when you’re so heartbroken.

Manon Bolliger  22:20

Yeah.

Jenna Brocious  22:20

And so it says, “Dear God, I pray. And there’s a blank for the name, and it says, “We’ll find peace and comfort in you on this journey of grief. Grief, God, please take away the pain and discomfort I feel in my heart with calmness and love. May the lost be saved by your salvation. Sorry, and the memories be sealed in our heart forever by your grace. We are all saved, and I think those are just-it’s a good prayer to have if you’re struggling and you do need that calmness and that serenity that is really hard to find sometimes. I just thought writing these cards with these words would give people a chance to relax and just focus on What matters,

Manon Bolliger  23:03

right? Right. Yeah, I wonder because I know you say sorry for the for the tears, but I wonder whether the tears are not part of the the emotional commitment to the statement. You know, because they they often say, the way the brain works is if you don’t feel it and you just read it, it doesn’t mean anything. Oh, I really like that. You actually have to feel it. So, with you still feeling it, it’s you’re still meaning it, right?

Jenna Brocious  23:41

Yeah. Five years later, I haven’t picked up a grief prayer card in a minute, and to have read that and have that emotion is still shocking to me. When I wrote these, I was sobbing at my dining room table

Manon Bolliger  23:53

writing, and then i I had to publish them and just let it go because they were never going to be perfect for me. But I had to, yeah, move on from that. Yeah, but I think that’s it because you know a lot of the putting things into manifestation, you know, you can’t just will it. You you’ve got to live it. You’ve got to see it. You got to believe it. You’ve got to experience it, even if it’s in your mind, because your your brain won’t know the difference between a dream or the truth, just like it can’t tell the difference between the past or the story. Which is why we’re you know it’s very hard to count on your memory, right? You know, even apparently to point out your murder, the murderer of somebody on the scene-you’re only 50% accurate. Like that is scary, right?

Jenna Brocious  24:48

Very interesting. What our brain allows and doesn’t allow.

Manon Bolliger  24:52

Yeah, you know. So I mean, that’s scary because somebody’s life is, you know, in your 50% judgment, right? Even if you intend the very best, that’s how not malleable, but how impressionable our mind is, right? But it, but yeah, if we work with emotions, since we have them, it works to our benefit.

Jenna Brocious  25:20

Yes, and I’d have to say on my healing journey, I feel like I’ve become more emotional as well. Maybe because I opened up those emotions, or I’ve opened up my heart a lot more. I just crying a little bit more, or just like in a moment of pure joy and happiness, I’ll cry for some reason I don’t know why, but my heart just like it Overwhelms me.

Manon Bolliger  25:41

I mean that just from a frequency resonance point of view, you’re living at a like at a more embracing of life level, right? You’re not fighting it. You’re just in it. Well, fighting it doesn’t

Jenna Brocious  25:58

get us anywhere. So we might as well just make the best of it, enjoy, love it, and surround ourselves with people that fill us up with love and joy, and are good and kind people to us.

Manon Bolliger  26:08

Right, right, yeah.

Jenna Brocious  26:10

I had to. I moved away when I was 19 from my hometown, and I knew if I didn’t get out when I was young, that I’d probably get stuck in the same patterns that everybody else did in my small town. So I big risk and moved to Arizona, and I don’t regret it because I’m such a different person that knows I’m so capable of overcoming so many things and

Manon Bolliger  26:32

stay

Jenna Brocious  26:33

on the other side.

Manon Bolliger  26:35

Well, so how old is your? It’s a son, right? Yeah, how old is Hina?

Jenna Brocious  26:42

He just turned 11. Time is no more time, almost. It’s wild.

Manon Bolliger  26:48

That’s funny. It’ll be funny when he hears this or reads your your cards, you know, with a with an adult’s eye. You know, it’ll be very interesting. Has he read them so far?

Jenna Brocious  27:03

He has read my cards. While I was writing the book, I was obviously sitting at my desk, sobbing, writing, getting my heart out on these pages. And he came over to me one day, and he’s like, “Am I in your book? And I’m like, “You’re the reason I wrote the book. You’re the reason. You are all the pure love that like

Manon Bolliger  27:22

built

Jenna Brocious  27:23

up this thing within me that I had to explode and get it out. So it’s all about him, and he’s the best thing that’s ever happened to me.

Manon Bolliger  27:31

And

Jenna Brocious  27:32

if it weren’t for him, I don’t know if I would have ever like truly healed from my childhood. So very grateful for that.

Manon Bolliger  27:38

Yes, interesting how things work. Yeah,

Jenna Brocious  27:42

one of the things I did in my book is I because it starts from childhood, obviously, till current day, and I broke down at the end of every chapter my own lessons that I learned from that time. So you might read that chapter and gain your own lessons, but I thought it was important because I find it interesting. Sometimes people can’t get the real lesson out of the story, and I wrote at the end of every chapter, kind of broke down the lessons that I learned, hoping that they would have to not learn them themselves and maybe read it and understand better.

Manon Bolliger  28:14

Right, right, fair enough. Okay, well, so do you have any sort of last comments to share, or where people could get these cards, or as our time is wrapping up here. So I just thought I’d leave it to you at this point.

Jenna Brocious  28:30

You’re so sweet. I would just say that if I can make it out, anybody can make it out. If you truly want to heal, anything is possible. You just have to give yourself that time, and giving yourself that time is the biggest treasure I think you can ever give yourself because it will open up such a new world for you. My book is called Not My Problem Anymore. It’s a generational pattern book about how I broke my grandmother and my mother’s story. You can find it on Amazon, and then I have my positive intention prayer cards. Those are on Etsy, and they also come with a little stone. So if you just want to carry the stone with you and rub the stone as a reminder for your prayer or your intention, I kind of really thought through the process, hoping to set people up for success.

Manon Bolliger  29:17

Great. Well, thank you very much for sharing your time with us, and I’m sure people will be in touch when they go to the podcast. You know, they there’ll be comments and any indications where to get hold of you as well.

Jenna Brocious  29:34

Perfect. Thank you.

Manon Bolliger  29:36

Okay. Thank you.

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